Anyone have some decent power behind bone stock suspension? What kinda 60 ft and 1/4 mile times are/were you able to get out of the car? My cars ready for the track this week so I'm trying to get an idea of what my limits will be. My suspension is completely stock aside from the sway bars removed and 28x10.50 slicks.

 

I went 7.89@90mph w/ 1.84 60ft today on pep boys ultra Z tires 255/50/16's and stock suspension with no subframe connectors. The car wheel hops really really bad if i heat the tires up to much. One of the reason's for the good 60' is the convertor I am running.

Jason

 

I pulled a 1.62 in my 89 RS when it used to have stock suspension and a L03 (wouldnt really consider it alot of power! lol). This was on Comp T/A's on the stock 15's. No burnout. I think it was more luck than skill ...

 

Whaaa? 1.62 60 foot should be a mid 11 second pass. You woulda probably seen some daylight underneath the front tires too

 

Damn, that had to be with a 5 speed

 

I don't think that's even possible on street tires or a stock L03. A 1.6 60 would be nearly lifting the tires off the ground. Something is amiss here.

 

Yeah the only way a stock L03 is going to do that is if you slap a 350 shot on it ...and eve then ya might have trouble.

 

my best so far is a 2.3 and all i have is new shocks and springs in the back, the rest is bone stock and a bent lca. with pepboys GLS super sport tires 255/60/15's and couldnt hook for crap, im hoping my DOT slicks i got will help when i get new lug nuts.

 

It really doesnt even matter what engine you have, a 1.6 60ft simply can not be done on street tires.

 

I honestly think I can pull a 1.7x with the tires I have on it now. The reason I say that is I can launch harder now, harder than the 1.84 pass but after about 10 ft the car starts wheel hopping so bad it scares you. I am going to put subframes in this week and box the LCA's and put new bushings in. Funds aren't permitting a full spohn suspension right now, so I will have to work with what I can. I think I can hit a mid high 1.7 on these tires. My friend has the pep boys super sport tires on his car, 295/50/15, and they hood pretty good. All I can say is heat them up.

 

Hey believe me I thought something was wrong too. Thats why I said it was more luck than skill. Is it possible for the 60 ft sensors on the track to make a mistake? 1/4 mi time was pathetic (16.2 LOL!) but the 60 foot was really good so I kept the slip. Lemme find it and I'll get it scanned. This was on stock worn out suspension, crappy 15" tires, but alot of tries powerbraking (700r4, stock stall) for the best launch with no spin. Best 60ft behind that was in the 2.3x range. The 1.62 only happened once and yes I think it was either luck or some sort of mistake. So I guess it shouldnt even be considered. It just sticks out in my head so I replied to the post, 16.2 with a 1.62 ... very strange ...

FYI, my friend pulls 1.6x on DR's (you guys consider that a street tire?).

 

I would bet there was a problem with the timer or something. I do not consider DR's a street tire BTW. I just don't think it's physically possible to pull a 1.6 60ft on street tires regardless of engine, especially when you consider you had the L03 with the open rear and 2.73's.

 

I agree. And considering the track conditions of our crappy 1/4 mile strip, I would think its impossible anyway. I guess I should have just kept quiet since I thought it was fishy too. lol!!

 

lol, it's not your fault. Sometimes the timers just go whacko. I just don't think it would be possible for any car to do it on normal street tires. It just breaks all the laws of physics. I mean, hell, I've seen cars nearly pull wheelies on a 1.6 60 ft. with slicks and for some reason I doubt you were doing that, lol.

 

88IROC350TPI

Do those 28"s rub? What are the rim specs, width and offset?

Thanks!

 

im getting 1.828 60 ft with lakewood control arms and new shocks on 26 by 10 et drags...3.73 gears 2400 stall

 

oh yeah......no tire spin...1.828 60ft...12.734@107.4mph

 

They rubbed but not because of their width it was because of their height. 27" or 26" tall x 10.50 would have fit fine. The rims are 15x8 with 5.5" backspacing.

 

1.76 with stickies of course Anyways, I'm hopin to run high 10's next season and was gonna start asking around the tallest tire we can fit without mods. Currently running 27x11.5 nothing even close to rubbing anywhere, was wondering if 29" could be stuffed without a problem. Guess I can justify rolling the lip, but I refuse to tub. Ultimately will be running high 10's 11.0's on 10.5-11.5 wide, just need maximum height.

 

88iroc what track u hit atco or englishtown?????

 

1.54 60 ft on BFG DRs 275-60-15s..with only front sway bar removed..you can take the stock suspension alot farther than most people think..and just cuz you cut 1.5s and 1.6s doesnt mean your gonna pull the front tires off the ground..even my car will barely pull the left front and i mean barely..i do wanna try some Et streets out this fall though im hoping for some 1.52s maybe?

 

Damn, good times. I hope to be in the well into the 11's after some tuning, but I don't know if my mph will be as high as yours. I still have the front sway bar bolted on my car.

 

Pulling the front sway bar at the track is an age old trick for better short times.

Since it only takes a few minutes to dop the front sway bar do a test at the track with and without to see the difference in short timnes and cosistency.

 

id say a 1,8 with some good tires and a good launch technique will happen on stock suspension but on DRs. more likely to happen with a 5spd as well.

 

Why is it more likely to happen on a 5 speed? Care to explain?

 

Your car is a freak of nature.... I've read your posts in the past its just amazing. I know guys with ladder bars that have trouble hooking enough to go 1.5x 60 fts.

twiztid dreams - atco.

 

To tell you the truth about the front sway bars on our cars, in my case anyways, I did not notice ANY difference in street driving characteristcs that would seem unsafe for a daily driver. Now if your the type that likes to hang it out with an occasional power slide or going for absolute stickiness around the bend, a sway bar may needed. But since mine is equipped with stickies out back full time, not DR either, I know to keep myself in check even though I get the urge to lett'er hang out, I just can't. So if anybody reads this and wonders what the effects would be on a street driven car and your more inclined to get it going staight, no ill effect was noticed when I pulled mine. Now my friends with G bodied cars notcied a big difference upon removal since they were dealing with a non-performance oriented suspension in the first place. So don't be afraid.

 

unless you have a good convertor

 

The 2.19 60' I got was way better than I expected for what I have. Stock sized 215/65/15 tires, heated up the tires a tiny bit, brought the rpms up to 2500 then quickly rolled into the throttle when it was time to go. Ran a blistering fast 15.21 hehe. Only thing done to the suspension is the spohn torque arm.

 

thanks..lol i dunno about being a freak.but just alot of dragstrip time and finding out what works for my combo.like i said alot of people would be surprised what they can reem outta there stock suspension if they went to the strip on a regular basis and experimented. thats all i did basically..what size tire is that looks big.i like the way it looks under your car!

 

The little 7.5in rear is the weak link. I started breaking pinions in mine around 1.54 60fts. I now have a 9in in it with boxed LCA and relocation brackets and the stock TQ arm. Best 60 ft now is 1.392. You can check it out HERE

 

What kind of "sway bar" do you have? I saw it mentioned on your site? Also, who's relocation brackets do you have?

 

The rear sway bar is from wolfe racecraft and the relocation brackets are from sphon