Is there such a thing as to much??

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Sep 23, 2003 | 11:44 PM
  #1  
Ok im doing a motor swap ( not going to say what mottor dont wanna start a rioght) i have ttops in my 83 camaro now im looking at 750 hp and some where around and no more that 900 ft lbs. Now with out a roll bar how can i keep my car from twisting up and also any iodeas on hooking up but mainly can i keep[ the car from twisting and keep the stock ap[eriance est. \mid 10sec 1/4. Please help i have to do this with a ttop car how do i do it??
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Sep 24, 2003 | 02:46 PM
  #2  
srpings, shocks, lca's, relocation brackets, subframe connectors (alston and spohn styles can work together and you might need both!)
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Sep 24, 2003 | 02:48 PM
  #3  
if your planning on 10's put a cage and sub-frames in, it should hold

tranction is another issue. you'll need to plan on a 12bolt or 9" rear, and maybe think about doing a ladder bar suspension, or something of that sort.
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Sep 24, 2003 | 05:00 PM
  #4  
NO CAGE
im trying to do the project with out a cage??? can i do that with thaT KIND of tourque and power?? i dont wanna cage i want to keep the car looking stock!! is it possible and what u mentioned above enough?
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Sep 24, 2003 | 07:09 PM
  #5  
so you plan on taking this thing to the track? if you are then i am pretty sure you need a cage.
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Sep 24, 2003 | 07:20 PM
  #6  
If you run Spohn and Alston SFC's together and don't get traction you'll be alright. If you plan on hooking up you'll NEED a cage to keep the car from twisting itself in half.
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Sep 24, 2003 | 07:21 PM
  #7  
First off, you dont need that kind of power to run mid 10s. Somewhere around 625 hp and 535 lbs of TQ will get it done in a 3200lb car set up right. However you will need good traction. And that means slicks and a good rear end. Heres a link to MY CAR which is a t top car running nothing but boxed LCA with relocation brackets weld in SFC, Weld in anti roll bar and HAL QA1 rear shocks everthing else is stock including the TQ Arm, rear springs, front struts and what ever else I left out. But it does have a roll bar to pass Tech.

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Sep 24, 2003 | 11:33 PM
  #8  
I'm new to all of this, where should I start for suspension upgrades? I have an 88 GTA, 5.7 liter. It's stock as the sig says, except for these little rods with red bushings at all four tires. I forgot WTH they're called, but what woudl be a good "Do this in this order" list if I want it to handle like it's on rails? Mind you, the thing weighs close to 3700 lbs right now. (I want to keep it heavy, too...)
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Sep 24, 2003 | 11:50 PM
  #9  
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Originally posted by pvt num 11
Mind you, the thing weighs close to 3700 lbs right now. (I want to keep it heavy, too...)
Why??????????????????????
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Sep 25, 2003 | 02:00 PM
  #10  
Why so much, or why do I want it to stay that way?

Well, I've heard that the nickname for the GTA was "Gran' Tubby Am"... But extra weight is free downforce... Like I'll EVER see the kinds of speeds where I'll need it.
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Sep 25, 2003 | 02:04 PM
  #11  
weight just slows u down do that GTA a favor and put it on a diet
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Sep 25, 2003 | 05:24 PM
  #12  
Let's see... Diet. Would you recommend a high-fiber diet, or something with lots of carbohydrates? But seriously folks, besides stripping the seats and insulation out of the entire car, what would one do to lessen the curb weight? Mind you all, I do want to retain a stock look for as long as I can. It must be a sleeper. It must be nice. It must be nice until I don't want it to be nice anymore. Then it's munchy snack time, with some crunchy cakes to eat.
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Sep 25, 2003 | 05:25 PM
  #13  
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Originally posted by SLP IROC-Z
weight just slows u down do that GTA a favor and put it on a diet
You want to take weight off the front of the car first and the rotational weight as well......
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Sep 25, 2003 | 10:46 PM
  #14  
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Originally posted by pvt num 11
Let's see... Diet. Would you recommend a high-fiber diet, or something with lots of carbohydrates? But seriously folks, besides stripping the seats and insulation out of the entire car, what would one do to lessen the curb weight? Mind you all, I do want to retain a stock look for as long as I can. It must be a sleeper. It must be nice. It must be nice until I don't want it to be nice anymore. Then it's munchy snack time, with some crunchy cakes to eat.
theres lots of little things to do to lighten it up...
drag lites/pro stars
skinnies and slicks
tubular K member
tubular A arms
aluminum drive shaft (not sure on the strength behind a real high hp engine)
4th gen rack and pinion conversion
take out the inner bumpers
aluminum heads
take out the sound deadening
ac delete
take out the crap behind the dash
get rid of the spare tire
get rid of the front sway bar (might want if its gonna be a street car)
loudmouth exhaust
fiberglass hood
plexi glass windsheild/hatch glass
fiberglass decklid

im sure theres more but u get the idea, not all of those ud wanna do on a street car but thers lots of ways to reduce weight.
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Sep 26, 2003 | 12:16 PM
  #15  
10.9 street car guy
hey nice car can u do me a favor and send me some interior pics and also a pic with the ttops out from different angles?? thanks do u have ac??
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