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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:47 PM
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I just bought a wonderbar today from TDS. Anyone else have this mod. Is it easy to install. I can't wait to get mine and have it installed.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:22 PM
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yes I have

fairly easy to install. Leave swaybar end links attached, and possibly a friend to help hold the swaybar while bolting up the wonderbar.
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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nah its the simplest thing to do in the world, just unbolt the sway bar brakcets (not endlinks) unbolt a few bolts from the fram slide it in and bolt it up, take literally 15 min. while your at it might as well upgrade those old rubber bushings with poly swaybar bushing , a very cheap and nice mod
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Yup just it is just as easy as those guys described. You may want to loosen the end links a bit but you do not have to remove them. Just watch out that the sway bar does not swing down and hit you in the face. It is heavier when you are laying down
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 11:40 PM
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it woulda been easy if the owner before me hadn't wrecked it :lala: But that's all fixed now.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 12:26 AM
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Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
Just watch out that the sway bar does not swing down and hit you in the face. It is heavier when you are laying down
No kiddin, I learned the hard way
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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great piece, easy mod to install. supports that area nicely.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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What everyone else said. Including the whacking in the face part.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:18 PM
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Originally posted by kretos
nah its the simplest thing to do in the world, just unbolt the sway bar brakcets (not endlinks) unbolt a few bolts from the fram slide it in and bolt it up, take literally 15 min. while your at it might as well upgrade those old rubber bushings with poly swaybar bushing , a very cheap and nice mod
Poly bushings? wonder if I can get these from TDS as well.

Does this Wonderbar do the same thing as a STB?
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 07:22 PM
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It is similar to a STB in that it reinforces the frame, however it does not perform the exact same function. STBs are for keeping the front frame from flexing inward when the suspension gets loaded. Wonderbars are for tighter steering response and preventing the sheet metal holding the steering box from ripping; a common occurance on our aging cars.

Do a search on "wonderbar" or "steering brace" and read. There's a lot of info.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Would a STB still be a wise purchase?
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Would a STB still be a wise purchase?
Yes. My car feels amazing with the 3pt edelbrock unit. The front ends on these cars can twist quite a bit. Just a simple set of SFC's and a STB can wake up a lame handeling 3rd gen.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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I tried ordering the Edlebrock 3pt STB however the company I ordered it from wanted a photocopy of my visa card. I didn't feel that this was a safe thing to do so I declined the order. I need to find me a company that sells that product and ships to Canada
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:09 PM
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I tried ordering the Edlebrock 3pt STB however the company I ordered it from wanted a photocopy of my visa card. I didn't feel that this was a safe thing to do so I declined the order. I need to find me a company that sells that product and ships to Canada
www.jegs.com

Thats all you need to know.
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 10:52 PM
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I actually just ordered my TDS wonderbar last week, should be here tomorrow and getting installed tomorrow also. I also ordered Spohn's poly sway bar bushings to help that all out too, and i'll likely do a STB in the next few weeks (I'm in steering and suspension class, and I like to work my car out in every area while i'm in each class, so I got 6 more weeks to get my suspension all done out!!)
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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i have it...it did make a difference in the handling. the whole front of the car feels tighter during sharp turning. i also have the tokico struts and shocks so that helps too
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Old Mar 17, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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where'd u get u'r tokoiko shocks and struts from, and how much did u pay?
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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Yea I got the wonderbar from TDS and it tightened up my steering nicely.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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I got mine and installed it, but I guess I don't drive hard enough to notice a difference. I'm still glad I got it. I like the added security.
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:45 PM
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I did not notice any difference when I put mine on however the idea of more support is great
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Old Mar 18, 2004 | 11:47 PM
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installed mine yesterday with new poly swaybar bushings, tightened up the body roll and steering response a lot, she handles a lot better.
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