poor roads, poly vs rubber bushings
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poor roads, poly vs rubber bushings
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I'm planning my Summit shoppings - I live in Poland, so the purchases must be combined due to s/h costs... I live in poor region and it's easy to notice when you look at the streets; the surface is crocky, jumpy-bumpy with lot of cracks and holes etc. Is it reasonable to use poly bushings instead of stock ones? Handling quality would be improved for sure, but how about durability of bushings themselves and the rest of suspension? I'm worried about vibration transfer to the body, especialy from A-arms (sway bars probably won't cause big rattling).
I'd like to replace coils, too; where can I buy new WS6 springs and have 'em shipped intly? Most of dealers don't offer overseas shipping, or want to ship in expensive ways (UPS, FedEx - they my be cheap, but not for shipping outside 48 cont. states). Are there any aftermarket springs available with stock height and performance characteristics, but without big $$$ tag?
Wow, a lot of questions
Who'd like to share advice?
)I'm planning my Summit shoppings - I live in Poland, so the purchases must be combined due to s/h costs... I live in poor region and it's easy to notice when you look at the streets; the surface is crocky, jumpy-bumpy with lot of cracks and holes etc. Is it reasonable to use poly bushings instead of stock ones? Handling quality would be improved for sure, but how about durability of bushings themselves and the rest of suspension? I'm worried about vibration transfer to the body, especialy from A-arms (sway bars probably won't cause big rattling).
I'd like to replace coils, too; where can I buy new WS6 springs and have 'em shipped intly? Most of dealers don't offer overseas shipping, or want to ship in expensive ways (UPS, FedEx - they my be cheap, but not for shipping outside 48 cont. states). Are there any aftermarket springs available with stock height and performance characteristics, but without big $$$ tag?
Wow, a lot of questions
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Axle/Gears: 4th Gen 10 bolt/Detroit TrueTrac 4.
i would guess because they are stiffer, the poly bushings would be more noticeable on really bumpy roads but they will last you forever.
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I would go for the stock rubber. Thoes will be more loose and not stiff. Also third generation f-bodys are known for that "Every damn bump in the road feel" thats my quote. If you want comfort than buy a cadilac.
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Comfort isn't an issue; I'm rather worried about body structure. SFC's, strut tower brace and wonderbar are waiting till engine installation, but even with all these reinforcements the body is gonna have a hard life
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I would recommend rubber or the harder 1LE rubber parts. Poly is especially bad on pot hole, rut ridden curvey roads.
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I did some research and found part numbers for 1LE sway bar bushings and endlinks, but already decided to use poly ones in these places. As for A-arms - it looks like they're all the same, no special ones for 1LE, so the choice is limited to rubber and polygraphite.
I'll try to find a second set of arms and put 'em in the car with poly so I could change back to stock ones easily (if I ever want to...)
I'll try to find a second set of arms and put 'em in the car with poly so I could change back to stock ones easily (if I ever want to...)
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From: Moscow, Russia
Car: Firebird Formula '91
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I live in Russia, so the roads are basically the same
(( I have Energy Suspension bushings, Eibach springs and Koni sports. On our roads its feel damn bumpy, but there's no problem for me. So, if handling is more important than comfort, go for it, cause you can forget about comfort installing poly bushings
(( I have Energy Suspension bushings, Eibach springs and Koni sports. On our roads its feel damn bumpy, but there's no problem for me. So, if handling is more important than comfort, go for it, cause you can forget about comfort installing poly bushings Trending Topics
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I don't know where or if you can get new WS6 springs, but you can get used ones from Tom at www.houseofcamaro.com He's had them recently, so I'd guess he still does. And I know his price would be MUCH better than new ones. But I don't know if he ships overseas, so that's something you and he will have to discuss.
I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference between new ones and used ones anyway. They'll still be very stiff. So contact Tom(soon because that's a popular spring) to see what he can do for you. He's very nice!
I doubt you'd be able to tell a difference between new ones and used ones anyway. They'll still be very stiff. So contact Tom(soon because that's a popular spring) to see what he can do for you. He's very nice!
I'm running the PST polygraphite control arm bushings on my car. We have pretty rough roads around here as well, and I can't tell a difference between the stock bushings and the poly ones as far as ride quality. They feel pretty much the same to me. I figure the benefit is that I don't have to worry about the poly ones dry rotting or wearing out too quick.
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