Removing Front (k) Member ???
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Removing Front (k) Member ???
ok - got my control arms, springs, and struts out of the front end and still need to drop the cross-member. calipers are hanging for now, but what i need to know is if the x-member just drops out after removing the big bolts and braces, or if there are nuts on the other side and if so, how to get to them. also, as far as brake lines, they wrap around the x-member somewhat, but should be ok to carefully bend them out of the way and leave the calipers hanging? it's not a big deal if i mess them up, but am gonna try not to and would rather leave the brakes intact, if possible. i really just need to know about dropping the x-member. and about how much it weighs so i don't get a big surprise when it does drop out... thanks.
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The nuts for those bolts are supposed to be captivated.
Yes, it pretty much just falls off, once the bolts are removed; no surprises to speak of.
It weighs maybe 70 lbs.... not really very much at all.
I think it would be common-sensical to remove the calipers, as easy as it is. I believe it would be easier to do that than to fight them being in the way. It's always easier to move big things around underneath a car, when you don't have alot of obstructions. It's that much less stuff left dangling around to get in the way and suffer or cause damage.
Yes, it pretty much just falls off, once the bolts are removed; no surprises to speak of.
It weighs maybe 70 lbs.... not really very much at all.
I think it would be common-sensical to remove the calipers, as easy as it is. I believe it would be easier to do that than to fight them being in the way. It's always easier to move big things around underneath a car, when you don't have alot of obstructions. It's that much less stuff left dangling around to get in the way and suffer or cause damage.
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K-Member weighs aprox 48lbs with everything removed from it, thats what mine wieghs after being sandblasted and powdercoated black. It will come right out after removing the 6 bolts. There are two alignment pins to keep it lined up but have nothing to do with keeping it in the car. If you have someone to help its a breeze. I took the bolts out of one side, placed a hydraulic jack under the pass side where I could control it from the driver side of the car. Took out the bolts on driver side and kind of let it all down at once. I would recomend going ahead and removing the calipers and lines before dropping it to prevent damaging the lines.................................jt
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ok - thanks. sounds as easy as it looked. i just wanted to be sure. as for the calipers and brake lines, i was also trying to find some plugs or bolts to put in the p-valve when i took the lines off, but haven't been able to find any. supposedly they're an M12x1. does the p-valve actually discharge fluid statically without the brake pedal being mashed? i just don't want fluid leaking anywhere...
jt - what did it cost to have your stuff powdercoated?
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jt - what did it cost to have your stuff powdercoated?
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it'll slowly drip.
intresting that you got 48lbs... mine was greasy/dirty and weighed 45lbs. eh, probly diffrent scales...
intresting that you got 48lbs... mine was greasy/dirty and weighed 45lbs. eh, probly diffrent scales...
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jt - what did it cost to have your stuff powdercoated?
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jt - what did it cost to have your stuff powdercoated?
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Make sure that you check where the hard line runs from the prop valve to the r/s caliper, mine was clamped to the k-member in a couple of spots, so removing some of those clamps may give more room for the lines to move around obstacles as you drop the k-member. Also, you did not mention the engine, so I assume there is no engine in the car currently?
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yea, i know about the clamps, and yes, there's no engine in it. trying to take off some of that corrosion so it'll at least look nice when it all goes back together...
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Originally posted by MrDude_1
it'll slowly drip.
intresting that you got 48lbs... mine was greasy/dirty and weighed 45lbs. eh, probly diffrent scales...
it'll slowly drip.
intresting that you got 48lbs... mine was greasy/dirty and weighed 45lbs. eh, probly diffrent scales...
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Originally posted by thunderstick
yea, i know about the clamps, and yes, there's no engine in it. trying to take off some of that corrosion so it'll at least look nice when it all goes back together...
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yea, i know about the clamps, and yes, there's no engine in it. trying to take off some of that corrosion so it'll at least look nice when it all goes back together...
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One other thing that I thought of was those aligning pins. Be sure to keep the k-member level until those aligning pins clear. Mine hung up a little at first due to these pins catching because the k-member wanted to rotate as it came down. No biggie, pretty easy removal actually.
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Originally posted by wilyk9
One other thing that I thought of was those aligning pins. Be sure to keep the k-member level until those aligning pins clear. Mine hung up a little at first due to these pins catching because the k-member wanted to rotate as it came down. No biggie, pretty easy removal actually.
One other thing that I thought of was those aligning pins. Be sure to keep the k-member level until those aligning pins clear. Mine hung up a little at first due to these pins catching because the k-member wanted to rotate as it came down. No biggie, pretty easy removal actually.
also, where can i get powdercoating done? anybody know? i've heard you have to "re-tap" all the holes again because powder coating closes them up.(?)
that's a good idea to leave all that suspension off for your headers - i might do that, too, but i'm so damn far behind on this now that i may not wait. i've got the time to make the suspension look good cuz my engine still ain't together (that's another story), but i still seem to be behind.
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Originally posted by thunderstick
which way does it tend to rotate? rearward? that's what it looks like, i'm assuming from the way it's in there.
which way does it tend to rotate? rearward? that's what it looks like, i'm assuming from the way it's in there.
also, where can i get powdercoating done? anybody know? i've heard you have to "re-tap" all the holes again because powder coating closes them up.(?)
that's a good idea to leave all that suspension off for your headers - i might do that, too, but i'm so damn far behind on this now that i may not wait. i've got the time to make the suspension look good cuz my engine still ain't together (that's another story), but i still seem to be behind.
But on the positive note, the entire bottom of the car is now clean and painted. All suspension pieces are either painted, powdercoated, or replaced. Also upgraded to LS1 brakes on all 4 corners.
The rear went back together last weekend, will be working on the front this weekend. I just wish those headers would get here.
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Originally posted by wilyk9
Know what you mean. Started tearing my car apart in June, still not back together.
But on the positive note, the entire bottom of the car is now clean and painted. All suspension pieces are either painted, powdercoated, or replaced. Also upgraded to LS1 brakes on all 4 corners.
The rear went back together last weekend, will be working on the front this weekend. I just wish those headers would get here.
Know what you mean. Started tearing my car apart in June, still not back together.
But on the positive note, the entire bottom of the car is now clean and painted. All suspension pieces are either painted, powdercoated, or replaced. Also upgraded to LS1 brakes on all 4 corners.
The rear went back together last weekend, will be working on the front this weekend. I just wish those headers would get here.
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Originally posted by thunderstick
i've heard you have to "re-tap" all the holes again because powder coating closes them up.(?)
i've heard you have to "re-tap" all the holes again because powder coating closes them up.(?)
If there is a hole that you do not want coated, let the powder coater know that when you drop the parts off and they can plug or tape off the hole before they spray. I had my calipers done, and they taped off the banjo bolt and bleeder holes as well as the piston bores. Everything went back together with out any issues.
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did your calipers, too? man i bet that all looks sharp... now i might want to do mine... did you have to strip them all down? got my x-member out today. man, that was easy. thanks for all the help. i took the ol' degreaser to it and pressure washer. going to the shop monday...
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I completely disassembled the calipers, then put them in the parts washer to get them as clean as I could. The powdercoaters did the final cleaning before coating. Here is a pic of the rear together
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