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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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LCA relocation brackets

well, i bought some LCA from spohn, and have decided to go with some relocation brackets..but, i don't want to weld them on my car, and was wondering if i was to buy some brackets from someone else, if my LCAs will still fit in them?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 06:41 PM
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any lca bracket you get will need to be welded. is you car lowered? how much? i would not trust any bolt in lca there is alot of pressure on em and if one went while driving it would be a nasty wreck.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:19 PM
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Kaas, I strongly suggest you listen to what jeff said...if you don't wanna weld them, do not use them then.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 07:32 PM
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Originally posted by JeffW
any lca bracket you get will need to be welded. is you car lowered? how much? i would not trust any bolt in lca there is alot of pressure on em and if one went while driving it would be a nasty wreck.
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I imagine even a loose bolt would be enough to throw the backend out on you. Weld em...
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 08:27 PM
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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if the car is not lowered you may not even need them. that is why i ask if it is. some simple lowers may not even need them. the lca relocation bracket corrects rear end geometry to prevent wheel hop. do you have wheel hop?

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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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I've had my bolt in BMR brackets for 3 years and 30,000 miles. Still tight and they aint movin.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Mkos1980
I've had my bolt in BMR brackets for 3 years and 30,000 miles. Still tight and they aint movin.
Do they connect to the rear end with one bolt or two?
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:17 PM
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They attach to the shock bolt and to the origional mount hole. So 2 spots
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:42 PM
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They attach to the shock bolt and to the origional mount hole. So 2 spots
Ah... I didn't think of the shock bolt... crafty BMR. Two mounts for the LCARBs should be fine for bolt-ons, but I would still get them welded on eventually.
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Old Nov 24, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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If you think about it, Everybody says the downward force would break the bolt on ones. If that was the case, wouldnt they want the LCA welded on? I mean its just lowering it with a bolt. With welding it on whats the welding really doing. In stock form a BOLT is whats holds the LCA on? With bolt in ones a bolt is holding it on again. If the bolt fails on the bolt in LCA what says the bolt on the LCA wouldnt have broken if it were attached to a weld in one? In all 3 years of surfing this board I have not found one incident of where the Bolt in LCA bracket has failed.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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You make a good point, but in stock form, the only weak point is the one bolt. With bolt-on relocation brackets, there are now two weak points: the LCA bolted to the LCARB and the LCARB bolted to the rear. Personally, I don't see a point in not welding them on, and it's safer, so that's why I would do it.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:18 AM
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Oh i totally agree it is the BEST solution to weld it on, but like me, I dont access to a welder or anything. (Also on my 2nd rear so I just moved them over lol)
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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Relocation brkts.

Originally posted by Mkos1980
I've had my bolt in BMR brackets for 3 years and 30,000 miles. Still tight and they aint movin.
Look here:
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-chassis.htm#cab
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Originally posted by Mkos1980
I mean its just lowering it with a bolt. With welding it on whats the welding really doing. In stock form a BOLT is whats holds the LCA on? With bolt in ones a bolt is holding it on again. If the bolt fails on the bolt in LCA what says the bolt on the LCA wouldnt have broken if it were attached to a weld in one?
if its designed for weld it must be welded. the lca has only one bolt but the original lca baracket was welded to the axle tube. a 1 inch bead of weld is stronger than most bolts. so if you just tossed bolt in a weld in lca and ran it the bracket woule work back n forth till thebolt shears off. now your talking designed bolt in that is diffrent. not sure how they work as i have never sen them.

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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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Those are it
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 08:47 AM
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Yea... You cant bolt in "weld" in ones.
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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just get the bolt in ones and they if you wanted to you could bolt them in . Its the way to go .
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Old Nov 25, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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hey those look nice. the spohn are weld in and have 2 holes. i am using the higher one and had to cut a chunk out of the bracket to get my pbr calipers to fit. i bet i could of fit those right on with the pbr's.

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