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Old Apr 2, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Buying custom made boyd Coddington rims which is 18X10 with 6.0 backspacing, will I have any problem fitting this rim and tire combo without rubbing or messaging the rim wall. I plan on using the NITTO NT 555R DRAG RADIAL 285X35-18.
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i didn't know they made a 285 dr. i had 295's with no problem but the bs was 6.75 depending on your spring rate you may have to roll your quarters under hard accel and turning. 6 might just work though.
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I talk to Jeff at Sporttruck.com and was told that guy with 3rd Gen. are running 285 on the rear with the Coddington wheels 18x10.
Here are the tires:Scrol down to the Nitto: $263.00 per tire
nitto Drag 285X35-18

Here are the wheels that I will have custom made by Boyd, the wait is 6 weeks total $1680 w/ shipping.
"Gotcha Hotrod"
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not saying the tire won't work. i had 285 toyos... just didn't know they are making a 285 dr now. very nice. you'll definately want at least that though. i really absolutely loved the 6.75 bs. 6 is close but better then 5.75.

good luck with it and post pictures when you get them, i'm sure it will be nice.

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6 weeks , Im on week 7 for the exact same setup, except Im putting the falkens on mine instead of the nitto's
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Where did you purchase the rims from? I did not order mine yet and has been doing a litlle research for other companies that can custom order these rims.
Here who I have in mind to purchase the rims. I will call and get a solid price tomorrow.

1. Supertrucks $1560 $120 shipping Total= $1680

2. Coolwheels.com

3. Custom Wheels Direct

4. New Stalgia

Hopefully I can get a better deal when I call the others.
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boyd can be fast or really really long...

how much are you paying for 18" boyds?
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I went through sportruck, and in my opinion, they were great to work with. The person who helped me was Jody, she answered all of my questions, sent me pics (ironically of graboids car) and also showed me similar wheels to boyds 'hotrod' (like intro which had a similar model). All in all, for the entire works (including palleting and shipping) it ran me about 2700. At the time it was the best deal from the several sites I had looked into, although one beat it significantly, but would not 'mix and match' the width of the tires (which is utterly stupid IMO). Im not really mad, I expected it to take this long as I was quoted 5 weeks for the bare minimum, to 10 weeks (not absolute) maximum. Im just anxious



....and even though you cant go directly by the prices on boyd's website, the wheels have gone up in price almost 100 dollars since I purchased mine

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Sportruck is the best place to get Boyds and Intros. My dad got his wheels there and my next set will probably come from them as well.

P.S. Jody is a dude.
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2700 shipped with tires doesn't sound bad, did you get a nice tire?
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P.S. Jody is a dude.


noted..


Jeff, the tires I have coming with them are falken FK-451 tires. Not too sure on how good they are compared to the Nitto NT555 or the Sumitomo HTRZ II which were the other two choices offered, but I read reviews both on and off this site, and from what I gathered is that the nittos are almost too soft for street driving and pick up anything sharp on the road, that and I didnt care too much for the tread pattern. The sumitomos were few and far between so I just looked the other way. I figure Ill get them on and see how I like them, I can always go a different route when the time comes (plus the package was only a 10 dollar difference between getting nittos and falkens)




DTL504: I was just checking my old emails when I was talking to Jody, and I was told that sportruck has a standard flat rate shipping cost of 200 dollars for all wheel/tire packages....it may be due to gas prices as I know alot of companies shipping rates are based on that, but if you only need to pay 120, thats pretty good for a pallet shipment


one more thing Jeff: If I didnt get these reverse mounted....can I expect any sort of decent lip on my rear wheels? I was looking at some old threads and I know that the smoothie wheels (like JeffW's) have a nice lip to them, and then I remembered that your Boze's were reverse mounted.

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you won't really have a deep dish, you will have a lip though however it will be stepped. it's all personal preference, i prefer the deep dish look myself, some don't. i'm sure it will look fine either way. the stepped look or standard mount is a more common order. i just like the smooth appearance of a dish that you get with reverse mount.
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The reverse hoop>stepped lip. I wish it had been available when I got my Boyds in 2000. It is well worth whatever extra amount they charge.
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reverse mount really shouldn't be much, however i do know boyd charges slightly more on average for that option. many of the other companies offer it either way, same price...

this is a step wheel
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and of course reverse mount or dish.
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another angle of a step wheel.

http://img.sportruck.com/events/ff05/23.jpg
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this is metallirocz's hotrod setup...it doesnt look stepped at all




and of course graboids....the dont look stepped either



this is why I didnt think I'd have to order a reverse mount wheel, because I love the deep dish look. It may be an illusion but almost every pic I see of hotrods on a car, they seem to have a lip....maybe it's that rolled lip thing like jeffW's smoothies
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it is an option... the size of the rim and the "class" of the rim will usually determine what you get. for example if you research the gotcha series they usually come reverse mounted. you'd have to ask for the stepped lip but that was only introduced recently when compared to the history of boyd and his wheels.

again it's all an option but if that's what you wanted you had better check and make sure that's what your getting.
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well I had sent an email to Jody today about the progress on my wheels. Coddington had stated that completion date would be 4/15/05 so that doesnt leave me much time. I just sent another email to ask how they were built and if there's time to change it (Im guessing they havent even begun to build the wheels yet so I may have time to change the order)
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the other thing I noticed too, was that on coddingtons website, the hotrods are part of the 'signature' series, wheras on sportruck, they are under the 'gotcha' series and claim to have a soft-rolled single lip hoop......Ill just have to wait until jody gets back to me
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first of all it's your money, you should have been more specific with them if you knew you wanted a particular look as wheels are extremely important to the build but reguardless the hotrod design since their debut has always been specific to the gotcha series which is suppose to be a reverse mount which gives the deep dish look.

you will probably be alright but i wouldn't wait a day on it. call them tomorrow or today as it were and get it straightened out. you'll be glad you did.

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here's what I was told this morning:

The term "reverse mounted" is a generic misused term. The smooth lip wheels
are specific built, completely different wheel hoops, not just a stepped lip
hoop assembled in "reverse".

If I remember right, you ordered 18x8" and 18x10" wheels with 4.5" front and
6" rear backspace (standard fitment). Given your fitments an 18x8" wheel is
9" from lip to lip, minus 4.5"(backspace) and minus 1.75"(center thickness)
and you end up with a 2.75" lip on the front wheels. The rear 18x10" wheel
is 11" from lip to lip, minus 6"(backspace) and minus 1.75"(center
thickness) and you end up with a 3.25" lip on the rear wheels.

Any less backspace and the wheels would stick out from the car which isn't a
common trend nowdays. The 2.75" and 3.25" lip may not sound huge, but you
will be suprised how they will look on the car. The black convertible has
the same amount of lip your wheels will have.



so a 3.25" lip in the rear isnt bad at all....I'd think that too much more and I could run the risk of bending the rim on these terrible MN roads....you must have been in the area of a 4" lip with your bs huh jeff? ever measure it?
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6.75 gives you a 3.5" lip.

the first hoops i had a 4.25 lip.



sounds like a bunch of jargon to me.. so long as your happy that's all that matters.

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Wow now i'm confused....
What specification backspacing and lip should I have for my rims too look like that black/blue Camaro? Also what type of rims are on this car size and backspacing.
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for the most part I guess, go with what they recommend. They've sold plenty of Boyd rims for thirdgens and when people post pics on here, they seem to fit right. If you want to hold back until I get mine in, I can let you know how they fit and take pics of any angles you wish to see (seeing how you're getting the exact same thing). Ill measure the lip too....I dont really need it to be excessive, but I want something decent so it stands out....the deep dish look calls out to onlookers .....as for the rims on the car, those are rodder5's and are also boyds. They have the stepped lip look, which isnt what Im going for (the lip has a 'step' in it).


Jeff: 4.25 is outragous, yet Im strangely in love with it
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Originally posted by Camaroguy18
for the most part I guess, go with what they recommend. They've sold plenty of Boyd rims for thirdgens and when people post pics on here, they seem to fit right. If you want to hold back until I get mine in, I can let you know how they fit and take pics of any angles you wish to see (seeing how you're getting the exact same thing). Ill measure the lip too....I dont really need it to be excessive, but I want something decent so it stands out....the deep dish look calls out to onlookers .....as for the rims on the car, those are rodder5's and are also boyds. They have the stepped lip look, which isnt what Im going for (the lip has a 'step' in it).


Jeff: 4.25 is outragous, yet Im strangely in love with it
I was in love with it too until i hit my first major pothole at night.



reguardless it sounds like things will be fine with your wheels which is great, can't wait to see them! as far as the lip your talking about honestly a 3-3.5" lip is more then enough.. any larger and it causes issues so you'll be good. with your comment about boyd i agree, one thing to note with all custom rims is that if you do not mount the tires you can return them. so when anyone recieves their wheels for the first time you should have the bare rims put on the car to check for fitment before you have the tires mounted. that way you are not comitted. once you mount the tires they are yours. you can have them rehooped (nice thing about 2/3 piece wheels) but it is not cheap.

save yourself the trouble, mount the bare rim and check fitment first!

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I was in love with it too until i hit my first major pothole at night.



reguardless it sounds like things will be fine with your wheels which is great, can't wait to see them! as far as the lip your talking about honestly a 3-3.5" lip is more then enough.. any larger and it causes issues so you'll be good. with your comment about boyd i agree, one thing to note with all custom rims is that if you do not mount the tires you can return them. so when anyone recieves their wheels for the first time you should have the bare rims put on the car to check for fitment before you have the tires mounted. that way you are not comitted. once you mount the tires they are yours. you can have them rehooped (nice thing about 2/3 piece wheels) but it is not cheap.

save yourself the trouble, mount the bare rim and check fitment first!



well I missed that boat this time around, but it's good to know that for the next one. thanks!
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What is the best spacing for 18x9?
A. 4.5
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I ordered my front wheels at 18X9 with 5.5 BS, will this be a problem with Nitto 245X18 tires?
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I've also been really happy with Sportruck.Com thats where I ordered my Boyds. I also got my deal through Jeff @ Sportruck.Com, hes a good guy. I wish I knew about the choices as far as the lip of the wheel, I didnt even know there was an option when I ordered, so I ended up with the stepped dish. Its still alright I guess, but I would have preferred the flat dish. I know this guy with a flat 6" rear lip (dollar bill fits!) on his rear wheels, looks insane. Too much for me though, I like around 3 or 4" lip. Here's a pic of my Boyds from the corner of the bumper, 18x8 front w/ 4.5" BS and 18x9.5 rear with 5.5" BS. I want to change the wheels, but cant decide what to do with the current set. So since I'm stuck its gonna stay this way for a while ...
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Does anyone have pictures between the stepped dish and the flat dish, so the I can make a decision before Jeff receive the payment in the mail? I want to look at the difference and make a judgement call for the correct fit.
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look above in the thread. you have several of both.
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I've also been really happy with Sportruck.Com thats where I ordered my Boyds. I also got my deal through Jeff @ Sportruck.Com, hes a good guy. I wish I knew about the choices as far as the lip of the wheel, I didnt even know there was an option when I ordered, so I ended up with the stepped dish. Its still alright I guess, but I would have preferred the flat dish. I know this guy with a flat 6" rear lip (dollar bill fits!) on his rear wheels, looks insane. Too much for me though, I like around 3 or 4" lip. Here's a pic of my Boyds from the corner of the bumper, 18x8 front w/ 4.5" BS and 18x9.5 rear with 5.5" BS. I want to change the wheels, but cant decide what to do with the current set. So since I'm stuck its gonna stay this way for a while ...


I had a hard time deciding whether to go for the style you have, and the hotrods, because yours just add something to a thirdgen that completes them
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Looking at the picture below is this a step dish or flat dish.
This is what I want!
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thats a flat dish....see how there are no 'steps' or bumps from the outside of the rim, to the spoked design? now look at the pic of the maro above (or crazys) and it has the little step in it
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oh and btw for anyone who wants to know. Boyd now does the 'laser engraved' logo on all their wheels for the center caps....the only wheels that will have the 'sticker' badge are the cast wheels
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Thanks,
That exactly what I will tell Jeff when I call him today. That Flat Dish is a must,she will look very sweet and will compliment my ride.
This is what I have on tap:
Boyd Coddington Gotcha Hotrod
2ea 18X9 w/5.5BS Front Flat Dish
2ea 18X10 w/6.0BS Rear Flat Dish

Tires will be:
Front: 18X9 w/245X40-18 Nitto 555 Extreme
Rear: 18X10 w/285X35-18 Nitto Drag Radial


I just hope that the 285 will tuck in nicely and not have to do a lot of hammering to get everything to fit.

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OOooo I wonder if I can get new centercaps. My sticker ones are faded and I jacked up the corner of one sticker thing while polishing. I'll have to give them a call!! Thanks for the info Camaroguy18!!
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as far as I know, yes you can get new center caps....not sure on the pricing though....


DTL504: if you're only running a 245 up front, why are you going with 9" wide? just wondering of course
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OOooo I wonder if I can get new centercaps. My sticker ones are faded and I jacked up the corner of one sticker thing while polishing. I'll have to give them a call!! Thanks for the info Camaroguy18!!
hopefully they are not like boze at $150 for a set of caps.
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DTL504: if you're only running a 245 up front, why are you going with 9" wide? just wondering of course
I talked to Jeff yesterday and he told me to put 255X40-18 on the front, but the problem that I have is I want Nitto Tires match set and they do not sell 255X40.
I should I call him back and get the front in 8 or 8 1/2 for the 245x40-18.
I dont want the sidewall looking crazy with a 245 on a 9" rim.
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Old Apr 9, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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well what are you really trying to gain with a 9" rim up front?, other than apperance by putting something like 275's. It doesnt really serve a purpose IMO. Jeff has said it time and time again, and I agree, that the 8/10 combo seems to look/work the best. If you are worried about performance, a 245 will handle great for you up front....if it's for appearance, I wouldnt worry about a 9" rim because people will be more focused on those 285's out back
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by Camaroguy18
well what are you really trying to gain with a 9" rim up front?, other than apperance by putting something like 275's. It doesnt really serve a purpose IMO. Jeff has said it time and time again, and I agree, that the 8/10 combo seems to look/work the best. If you are worried about performance, a 245 will handle great for you up front....if it's for appearance, I wouldnt worry about a 9" rim because people will be more focused on those 285's out back
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I called Jeff and change to the 8/10 combo for the 245X40-18 Front and 285X35-18 Rear. The front will have a 4.5 and the rear will get the 6.0 backspacing.
This Combo will allow me to run Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance up front and Drag Radial on the rear. Now I have to wait six weeks before the wheels are shipped.
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Old Apr 12, 2005 | 05:03 PM
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I think the new center caps are $125. I need some too, but haven't done anything about it yet.
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Old Apr 15, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by DTL504
Thanks
I called Jeff and change to the 8/10 combo for the 245X40-18 Front and 285X35-18 Rear. The front will have a 4.5 and the rear will get the 6.0 backspacing.
This Combo will allow me to run Nitto NT 555 Extreme Performance up front and Drag Radial on the rear. Now I have to wait six weeks before the wheels are shipped.

glad you went with that choice, it'd be nice if you get them in that time frame too. I was told about the same for ship time....then I was told last week that my wheels would be done by today (not shipped though)....still havent gotten my confirmation email/phone call yet.....week 9 just finished
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Crazy Hawaiian, if are serious about selling your rims/tires, let me know. I am looking for a set for my new ride. I wonder what shipping would be though.
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