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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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suspension bushings question

I am wanting to replace my bushings and and wondering how the heck you can get the sway bar bushings for the smaller than WS6 sway bars (I do believe I have 32/18 with my F41 suspension). I got quotes locally and nothing from TRW, Moog or AC Delco has come up. The smallest rear bar they provide for is 24 and 23mm according to the guy at the store. How the heck are you supposed to replace the bushings then??? (By the way, being a daily driver I don't want to go Poly)

Oh, also the panhard bar bushings don't seem to be available, only a new bar.

thanks.

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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:07 AM
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Arent the PHR bushings just LCA bushings?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Spohn Performance, Inc.

he has everything there
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 87orangez28blaz
Spohn Performance, Inc.

he has everything there
Yes I know, but Like I said, I am looking for stock bushings rather than poly. They only have poly.
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Arent the PHR bushings just LCA bushings?
I honestly have no idea

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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 01:40 PM
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this is the only way i know of of getting new Bushings in the PHR / Track arm. O'Reilly Auto Parts
OEM style ones that is.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by xplane
this is the only way i know of of getting new Bushings in the PHR / Track arm. O'Reilly Auto Parts
OEM style ones that is.
do you mean just bushings are whole new track arm? i tried searching there but didn't have much luck.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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the whole thing its only $50 so why not?
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 07:11 PM
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Wow...been a few years but the last bar i bought was 35.00 from a local auto parts chain.
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 12:18 AM
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Did you measure your bars? In my 91 Camaro RS with the f41, I had 34/21 sway bars before I got the 36/24.....

I don't think the bushings on the PHR are the same as the lower control arms(b/c the LCA bushings have the metal sleeve, whereas the PHR bushings are just the rubber inserts)
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MJH91RS
Did you measure your bars? In my 91 Camaro RS with the f41, I had 34/21 sway bars before I got the 36/24.....
Yes I measured them, 32/18. Although the 18 could be a 19, who knows. I noticed yours is a 91 and a V8 whereas mine is only 85 and a V6. From what I understand the bars got a bit thicker over the years, even with the F41 code.

I just don't understand why nobody appears to make these bushings (and panhard), not even AC Delco. How are you ever suppose to replace them without going poly?
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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I dont know if anyone said this because I did not read it all

You think that rubber bushings are going to make the car ride smoother in the end links and the support bushings

maybe before you start to change things you ought to find out how they operate

front and real control arm bushings are about the only ones that will make your car ride like a tank.

think about it the sway arm help with the side to side SWAY or roll of the car while cornering.

If there is any place you want poly it is there
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jamon8
I dont know if anyone said this because I did not read it all

You think that rubber bushings are going to make the car ride smoother in the end links and the support bushings

maybe before you start to change things you ought to find out how they operate

front and real control arm bushings are about the only ones that will make your car ride like a tank.

think about it the sway arm help with the side to side SWAY or roll of the car while cornering.

If there is any place you want poly it is there
Bushings all operate the same. THey are designed to attenuate vibration and stop (or reduce) it from transmitting into the body. The vibration etc originates from the tires hitting the bumps in the road and the tires/wheels then transmit it to the control arm and then to the body. Anything that is connected to the control arm will transmit this to the body, including the sway bars and panhard no matter what their purpose is (hence all factory is rubber for a reason). Granted, the sway bars do have two isolation points (links and frame mounts) which would reduce the effect especially if you only do one or the other, but if you do both it still will transmit more than rubber.

I have debated about doing the links in poly but not both since it is a daily driver and I have seen what poly does for day-to-day ride quality....everyone is different as to what they like and more imporantly what they can tolerate given their circumstances and what they use their car for. With the amount we drive it I do not prefer it personally, just my preference in my situation. Thanks for the suggestion though
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by eddie jr
Yes I know, but Like I said, I am looking for stock bushings rather than poly. They only have poly.
Get the one's that Spohn has. I just installed their total kit on the daily driver T/A and it's fine. I didn't notice any increased road noise, and the car handles much better now, so I don't see why you are concerned about it.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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suspension bushing queation

For stock type bushings contact PST at 887-224-1701 (Performance Suspension Technoligy refers to them as original performance parts). I do not think that using poly type bushings on the antiroll bars at the mounting points will create a harsh ride and will improve the handling. Antiroll bars are torsonial springs that transfer energy (weight)back to the side that is trying to unload the energy (weight). Poly bushings in the A frames and LCA's will increase the harshness because they are transfering energy in a verticle direction into the chassis.
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Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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suspension bushing queation

For stock type bushings contact PST at 887-224-1701 (Performance Suspension Technoligy refers to them as original performance parts). I do not think that using poly type bushings on the antiroll bars at the mounting points will create a harsh ride and will improve the handling. Antiroll bars are torsonial springs that transfer energy (weight)backto the side that is trying to unload the energy (weight). Poly bushings in the A frames and LCA's will increase the harshness because they are transfering energy in a verticle direction into the chassis.
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