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Moog and Monroe

Old May 2, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Moog and Monroe

my front end bounces. its time to replace the springs and shocks

I think ill get the Moog springs and Monroe Sensa tracks (I don't like the things I hear about KYB)

does this sound like a decent spring/shock combo?
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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:00 PM
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monroes are much worse i had both and the kyb are better but not the best either
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Old May 2, 2006 | 10:27 PM
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i like kyb more...moog springs are good.
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Old May 2, 2006 | 11:03 PM
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So

What's wrong with monroe? Personally I used Lakewood's I was just curious.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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Monroe will be fine if you want STOCK ride, if you want anything performance wise, go for Bilstiens, Koni's or tokiko(or however the hell they spell it). KYB's fall into the same catagory as Monroe, STOCK ride. I love my Prokit/bilstien Combo.
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Old May 3, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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the KYB's are stiffer than Monroe's, but not by a lot. The monroe's are built for factory spec, that's what they're designed for. - Moog springs/bushings/linkage/etc.... are good though. The springs are gonna be factory spec, but you can easily go with the WS6 stuff...
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Old May 3, 2006 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shagwell
the KYB's are stiffer than Monroe's, but not by a lot. The monroe's are built for factory spec, that's what they're designed for. - Moog springs/bushings/linkage/etc.... are good though. The springs are gonna be factory spec, but you can easily go with the WS6 stuff...

right the KYB's are stiffer, but they are not stiff enough to take them out of the stock ride catagory.
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Old May 4, 2006 | 12:04 PM
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...the KYB's are stiffer, but they are not stiff enough to take them out of the stock ride catagory.
agreed. But I'd still take them over Monroes'...
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Old May 4, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Shagwell
agreed. But I'd still take them over Monroes'...


eh, the Sensa-Trac's are fine, as are the Reflex, just don't get cheap and buy the Gas-matic's. otherwise i'd have no problem putting Monroe's on a car i just needed Factory ride.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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thanks for the feed back,

the springs and struts are being put on all 4 corners. I'm also having some energy suspension polyrothene bushings and a wonder bar put in. The same shop is also going to pop in one of those nifty lil "Posi units" i hear so much about on here.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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I put sensa-tracs on the front and kybs on the rear of my Iroc, it was a ton of improvement over the leaky ones on there. I just didn't have the money to go all out. You should also do the front strut mounts they made a world of difference too.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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Hmm

So are you speaking of the sensatrac's or the the reflex's. Cuz the reflex's should be more stiff than the KYB's.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I put the moog 5665/5662's along with the kyb's on my car about a year ago. The springs are great, the struts were okay for a short while but are now not up to the task of controling the front springs. The shocks still seem to be okay. I would bite the bullet and get some koni yellows for the front, I wish I had when I did it all the first time.
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Old May 23, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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IMO I think that KYB's feel much stiffer than Monroe. I know KYB is not close to Koni or Bilstein...but I think for the money they are much better than Monroe.
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Old May 24, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 92MaroRS
eh, the Sensa-Trac's are fine, as are the Reflex, just don't get cheap and buy the Gas-matic's. otherwise i'd have no problem putting Monroe's on a car i just needed Factory ride.
reflex's are made for trucks and suvs not cars.....
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Old May 25, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVEY420
You should also do the front strut mounts they made a world of difference too.


Good point!! All too often overlooked.
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Old May 26, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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So if neither of these two are that good. what is the best aftermarket strut and lowering spirings?
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Old May 29, 2006 | 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by merlot-fro
thanks for the feed back,

the springs and struts are being put on all 4 corners. I'm also having some energy suspension polyrothene bushings and a wonder bar put in. The same shop is also going to pop in one of those nifty lil "Posi units" i hear so much about on here.
on the wonderbar. granted, 1 of my swaybar bolts were a little loose. But after the install it tightened things up wonderfully for me. I used to have problems with vibration and squealing on tight turns. It felt like the tires were pointed at two different angles. No more. Also, going over bumps (at the same time and at a diagonal) feels alot tighter. This is all aside from the improved handling with all stock front shocks (Gabriels) and front springs (maybe the original 231k ws6 springs? they're probably just as low as a prokit now lol).
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Old May 29, 2006 | 02:05 AM
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rebuilt front end this winter used moog,blistine and kyb also used energy suspension bushing on the lower control arm very pleased with the resaults.
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