If someone could provide a measurement, ground to fender lip through wheel's center cap, I'd very much appreciate your effort.

JamesC

 

Sorry James, my CC635's are on the ground right now next to the car, and next to the rear end. Also, my tires are 29" tall, so that kind of makes this type of measurement more of an apples to oranges comparison don't you think?

 

Right... the "apples to apples" measurement would be from some point ont he chassis (fender lip would work but is rather imprecise being just a piece of trim), to the center of the axle. Ground is irrelevant because of the number of potential confounding factors.

I'll see if I can get out and dig enough snow off to measure mine.

 

15-5/8" average from center of wheel to edge of fender lip.... 15½" on one side, 15¾" on the other. Don't know how perfectly even the ground is but that should be plenty close enough for making a decision.

Also, note that those springs are about 10-12 years old and have probably 80,000 miles on them. Although I can say that they don't ride or sit too noticeably different from when they were new, looking at old pics and such.

 

That's basically no weight in the rear right? I can't imagine you have 300# of stereo equipment in the back of your Camaro, but I had to ask in case you have sandbags back there or something...

 

Thanks, sofa, you snow shoveling madman you! I've been running the 5665's since last summer (hoping they'd settle--what crapola that is since mine didn't settle a fraction). Even without the OE isolators (radiator hose) and using your measuring method, the car's sitting at nearly 16 1/2. With OE isolators, 17. I've always been dissatisfied with that height. So, humm, what to do, what to do? Cut or try the cc635's?

JamesC

 

Yes! You should.

IIRC it still has the stock isolators in it.

No big stereo stuff, just stock replacement; but it does have the deluxe interior stuff all back there... carpeted everything, the lift cover for the well, pull-out shade, some extra sound-deadening, spare tire (steel), jack, and a little bit of stuff in the well, maybe 20 lbs or so. Plus some snow ON the car, not a whole lot, but some.

 

CC635's are about $75. If they don't work you can always pull them back out and return them and say it was the wrong ones. PITA, but it'd save you the $75.
Rear springs are so easy to swap out so...

 

How about $42.87 from CarQuest! I was surprised to see that for an 85 IROC only the cc635 coils were listed. Interesting. Think I'll give them a try when the weather warms a bit. Are the 5665's and the cc's the same length (not that it matters)?

JamesC

 

No, I thought the CC635's are longer, but so soft at full length that once they are loaded they become shorter. AFAIK at least.

$42?!? Damn, whenever sofa mentions a price on an auto-part down in the "heartland" I always just assume he hasn't been out to a store in the last 20 years, but DAMN!!!! I paid $80+ a shipping cost at my local parts store, since it was a special order piece. Friggen border.

 

That's WITH tax--not to rub it in . I live in a small rural town. I've known the owner/manger for years. I had his son in school (and helped him with his IROC), so I think his father cuts me a break from time to time.

JamesC

 

JamesC

I take it that you are disatified with your 5665 springs. I got mines shortly after you and I have no regrets. Whats the problem with them?

 

I have them too. Gives the car a slightly taller stance but level. What are you trying to achieve, as far as height and stance? See pic https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/cama...oad-again.html

 

No real problem at all--the ride's fine. I just feel the fender gap is a bit much, especially compared to the front.

Bad, any chance I could get you to take the same measurement as sofa did above?

JamesC

 

I got em too (5665's). Mine are 16.25 from the center of the wheel to the lip using heater hose for isolators. On level ground, the car is sitting @ 28 & 28.5 front and rear from the ground to the lip. This is with 245/50/16 tires.

 

Much appreciated, gm. Nice to know that that's the ballpark.

JamesC

 

Bad, any chance I could get you to take the same measurement as sofa did above?
I will measure it and post it later in the day.

 

15 3/4" from center of cap to bottom lip of fender on left and 16" on the right. This is with stock OEM isolators.I am happy with the ride and I also have some extra room for a set of drag radials when needed.(When I complete my 383).

 

Bad, just to clarify, are you running the cc's or the 5665's?

 

5665's.Also, all my rear suspension,shocks,bushings,control arms,etc. is new.Don't know if that makes a difference.

 

Many thanks, Bad. That's a 1/2 inch lower or so than mine and I'm using radiator hose. Good grief, what gives here!

IROCU2, measurement?

JamesC

 

Forgot to mention that I have a dual sub box and amp in the rear cargo area. Maybe that's the difference!

 

Sorry I've been off the board for the last day or so. I will measure and post up Sunday. Thanks

 

Mine was measured with nothing in the trunk (no spare or jack) and about 5 gallons of fuel in the tank.