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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:09 PM
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Sloppy Box

Is there a lash adjustment on the steering box on my GTA? If not, I need a box.
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Old Jun 17, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Sounds like my old girlfriend!
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 08:15 AM
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Re: Sloppy Box

nobody likes a sloppy box!

From what I know, there isnt and adjustment.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:27 AM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Yeah, the box can be adjusted but it's best to do it on a bench. There's instructions on the montecarloss site in their tech articles. There are two adjustements: the input plug and the overcenter adjustment.
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Old Jun 18, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Re: Sloppy Box

There is an adjustment! And its easy to do.

http://www.monte-list.nu/tech/boxmesh.shtml
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 07:18 AM
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AFU I think there is a surgery to fix your old girlfriends condition. I think I knew her. As far as the box goes, Id buy a new/rebuilt box and swap em out, then rebuild yours at your leisure and sell it. Going through all the trouble of yanking that thing out, adjusting it on the bench, then stuffing it in there and finding out its STILL wobbly...would be a real kick in the ribs. My .02
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 10:35 AM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Why not try the on car adjustment first? then go from there. Takes about 5 minutes.
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Old Jun 26, 2009 | 06:03 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Originally Posted by 87350IROC
Why not try the on car adjustment first? then go from there. Takes about 5 minutes.
As soon as I get a chance I will do the adjustment on the car first. If that doesn't do it I will take it off and go from there. Thank's

Phil
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Old Jul 1, 2009 | 07:36 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Surprised how easy it was to find and do. i did it in my 85 impala and wow the car lost some of it's boatish feel. Thanks alot!
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Replace the rag joint too if you take it out.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 06:58 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Never had to disconnect anything the adjustment was in plain view and very accessible it did take me about 5 minutes to do. Plus i would if i had more money damn university expenses.
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Old Jul 2, 2009 | 08:39 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

Care must be taken if trying to adjust the box with just the over center adjustment. If the input plug is out of adjustment (which is likely if the box is that loose) adjusting just the over center set screw can lead to all kinds of overcorrection issues.

It's also not JUST in the box. All of the steering components should be examined for play, including the rag joint. Rag joint's go quick when the steering box leaks at the input shaft. Any sign of leakage is a cry for pulling the box and rebuilding. Replacing the seals at the least.
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Old Jul 3, 2009 | 01:34 PM
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Re: Sloppy Box

My Impala has only 120 000 kilometers and the box is in great shape their is no leaks or anything Knock on wood.I just adjust the box because it was a free upgrade. The box was only out just a bit so i did not have to screw the screw in almost all the way and throw everything out of whack.
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