How in the heck do you get the boots to stay on the ball joints???

I know there is some kind of metal band or spring inside the base of the boot that keeps it over the joint, but mine keep popping off when I try to put the boots on..

 

my MOOG balljoints are the same way the boots just wanna pop off, right now they are on there, but not snapped in to place, if they even due snap into place as long as they are covering the greased area they are doing there job

 

Anyone get them all the way on yet?
Im having the same problem with my Moog K6145's(problem solvers).

 

There's a metal sleeve in the seal. First make sure you note where the little bleed hole is for excess grease to ooze out. Aim it to the spring, not the disc.

next, take a pipe or a large socket that is the appropriate size to catch the outer ring part (wth the square indentations) of the boot and whack it on. You will not be able to get them on by hand. They are meant to go on that tight. They should go on all the way like this, these are the same problem solver jonts:

 

I used a pair of channel locks turned sideways(laying flat) on the lowest lip of the rubber boot, and whacked the side of the channelocks with a hammer...

one whack and they were on....

 

same technique with the tie rod boots I assume?

 

no, the tie rod boots are just loose over the tie rods, they have no collar on them.

 

I had the same problem with my PA racing tubular arms. I used channel locks to pull the boot down over the ball joint. Did it that way cause mine popped up after I installed the spindles. Worked for me, just had to play around for a minute or two on each side.

 

My new Moog tie rods do. I want to remove them and paint the tie rods but they have that metal ring.