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Can I chop my front stock springs??? Figured you guys know your stuff......
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Already redoing the whole front suspensioin: Control Arm bushings, KYBGR2's, End link bolts/bushings, sway bar bracket bushings and new ball joints..... Can I Chop the front STOCK springs?
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Already redoing the whole front suspensioin: Control Arm bushings, KYBGR2's, End link bolts/bushings, sway bar bracket bushings and new ball joints..... Can I Chop the front STOCK springs?
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Sure....I've done it on stock springs & gone autocrossing with no problems. What do you think think people did before aftermarket lowering springs came out?
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Cut at the top or bottom of the spring? How will it seat? Forgive me I am ****-retentive and know you guys know what's best. My Previous post shows she's stripped and ready! How to get the best seat?
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2" drop Personally this is the lowest I would go in terms of springs.
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When I first drove it down the road after lowering it, I thought hmmmm.......that feels a little more stiff than I expected. But, after driving it around for another 10 minutes, I realized it wasn't as bad as I thought. I was just so use to way it rode before that it took me a few minutes to get use to it. Not only that, I have air shocks in the back with ALL the air let out of them. I believe as soon as I install some regular shocks, it won't be that bad at all.
Cut the bottom of the spring. When you go to reinstall them, make sure you put the tapered (non cut) end up into the K-member, and the cut end down in the A-arm pocket.
Now, when it comes to indexing the bottom of the spring down into the pocket, I think "most" people will tell you to point the cut end towards the back of the A-arm and line it up between the two drain holes. (I'm not one of those people)
Here's the the reason why,......when I did it that way, it did NOT lower my car AT ALL, even after cutting 3/4's of a coil off my springs. But, as soon as I turned it around and pointed the cut end towards the outside of the car, it dropped it down about 3/4 of an inch. I ended up cutting another 3/4 of a coil off to get a full 2" drop.
I think he's referring to "not letting your springs get hot while cutting them". I wouldn't recommend using a torch to cut them unless you have a plasma cutter. Regardless, I would use a bucket of water and only have a couple coils sticking out if you do use a torch. I actually put my springs in a vice and used my compressor with a 4" cut off wheel. I cut halfway through then waited about 2 minutes, then I cut the other half.
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24 3/4" front fender lip height. 26 " rear fender lip height.
16x8 factory IROC wheels and 245-50/16 tires
The front wheel wheels still hav ethe factory plastic liners and the wheel on the drivers side has barely scraped the plastic in all the hard street driving I have done and road course playing I have done in this car in the 6 years I built it and drove it.
As low as this car is, you can pound it on the street, drive it fairly normal over speed bumps, and it pulled 1.07g's on a skidpad on street tires.
16x8 factory IROC wheels and 245-50/16 tires
The front wheel wheels still hav ethe factory plastic liners and the wheel on the drivers side has barely scraped the plastic in all the hard street driving I have done and road course playing I have done in this car in the 6 years I built it and drove it.
As low as this car is, you can pound it on the street, drive it fairly normal over speed bumps, and it pulled 1.07g's on a skidpad on street tires.
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Front springs are clamped for now and rears had 1.5 coils cut off. Getting a tubular k-member and coilover kit from BMR soon.
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This was original stance, but it was just to low, lower air dam was hitting everything, put a taller front tire on and solved the problem
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That thing is simply badass!!!. The fact it's tubbed and has Convo Pros makes it my second favorite car on this site. If it had a blower sticking out of the hood it would definitely be my favorite.
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here is my project befor and after
it has the hotchkis springs, hotchkis strut tower brace, hotchkis tie rod and center link set and the hotchkis adjustable pan hard bar with kyb shocks and struts...
the tires are much wider now then in this pic
it has the hotchkis springs, hotchkis strut tower brace, hotchkis tie rod and center link set and the hotchkis adjustable pan hard bar with kyb shocks and struts...
the tires are much wider now then in this pic
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My car has always sat high since I put the IROC springs in it. When I redid my ball joints and went with poly a-arm bushings I cut my IROC springs and it sits a good bit lower, but it just looks stock. Cut half a coil in the front, 1/4 coil in the rear and removed the rear isolator.
I think I may just need real lowering springs. And yeah, I had them indexed properly.
I think I may just need real lowering springs. And yeah, I had them indexed properly.
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My car has always sat high since I put the IROC springs in it. When I redid my ball joints and went with poly a-arm bushings I cut my IROC springs and it sits a good bit lower, but it just looks stock. Cut half a coil in the front, 1/4 coil in the rear and removed the rear isolator.
I think I may just need real lowering springs. And yeah, I had them indexed properly.
I think I may just need real lowering springs. And yeah, I had them indexed properly.
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Actually my car settled down a bit after those last pictures I posted. Here's what it looks like now:
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eibach sport line. soon will be sporting konis sports. my kybs are shot !
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Spohn coil over kit (275 lb springs 12") and cut nnl springs in the rear.. Since the pic I've raised the front just a hair to make the car more level. That and I needed the clearance for the mufflex 3" y pipe that goes around the spohn torque arm and x-member.
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Here is mine... Intrax springs with KYBs all the way around. Coilovers go on this upcoming winter, 19s go on in one month. Will repost pics after the rims arrive.
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Dropzones here and they get the job done
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I've had Eibachs on my other cars and I'm always a bit leary. The quality is always nice, but the spring rates can be way off. I had the ProKit on my '93 Beretta GTZ; The ride was still decent but the drop wasn't as much as I wanted. I bought Sportlines for my '04 SRT-4 and it was too low and bounced like crazy. I had to switch back to stock.
After that experience, I'm leaning more towards the ProKit, but don't want to be disappointed with the drop.
Who knows.
After that experience, I'm leaning more towards the ProKit, but don't want to be disappointed with the drop.
Who knows.
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Don't get me wrong, its a ThirdGen, so I dig it; just my $.02.
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OK so as a new owner of a third gen with a stock stance this thread is great but USELESS Without everyones tire size!!! How am I suppose to know what my wheels will look like without knowing what size tire is on your car? LOL oh by the way all the lowerd cars look SICK!!
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I've had Eibachs on my other cars and I'm always a bit leary. The quality is always nice, but the spring rates can be way off. I had the ProKit on my '93 Beretta GTZ; The ride was still decent but the drop wasn't as much as I wanted. I bought Sportlines for my '04 SRT-4 and it was too low and bounced like crazy. I had to switch back to stock.
After that experience, I'm leaning more towards the ProKit, but don't want to be disappointed with the drop.
Who knows.
After that experience, I'm leaning more towards the ProKit, but don't want to be disappointed with the drop.
Who knows.
And if I decide to go higher or lower? That is just a turn of a wrench away. If I want stiffer or softer springs? Only $55/each, so I can buy just fronts or rears & not a full set.
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OK so as a new owner of a third gen with a stock stance this thread is great but USELESS Without everyones tire size!!! How am I suppose to know what my wheels will look like without knowing what size tire is on your car? LOL oh by the way all the lowerd cars look SICK!!
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Well I can see where dome
people don't want to make it into the 21st century I mean ok the 22's are pretty ghetto but not sure when the Kay time you were at a dealership but most sport cars now have 20's stock. I digress back to topic anyone lowered on 20's? Nevermind the 22's doh!
people don't want to make it into the 21st century I mean ok the 22's are pretty ghetto but not sure when the Kay time you were at a dealership but most sport cars now have 20's stock. I digress back to topic anyone lowered on 20's? Nevermind the 22's doh!
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question, how low can you go before you need to buy struts/shocks/panhardbar ?
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I'm lowered about 2" & my shocks & struts don't bottom out at all. I've never HAD to replace the shocks or struts after lowering.
You don't HAVE to replace any of that when lowering a 3rd gen.
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My 87 GTA coulda used an adjustable panhard bar at stock height.....Some people are fine lowered. A lot of that depends on how tight you want the wheels to fit....Like me stuffing 315s on 11s completely under the fenders. I HAD to get an adjustable panhard bar.
I'm lowered about 2" & my shocks & struts don't bottom out at all. I've never HAD to replace the shocks or struts after lowering.
You don't HAVE to replace any of that when lowering a 3rd gen.
I'm lowered about 2" & my shocks & struts don't bottom out at all. I've never HAD to replace the shocks or struts after lowering.
You don't HAVE to replace any of that when lowering a 3rd gen.
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Ground Control suspension setup at full drop.
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Well I can see where dome
people don't want to make it into the 21st century I mean ok the 22's are pretty ghetto but not sure when the Kay time you were at a dealership but most sport cars now have 20's stock. I digress back to topic anyone lowered on 20's? Nevermind the 22's doh!
people don't want to make it into the 21st century I mean ok the 22's are pretty ghetto but not sure when the Kay time you were at a dealership but most sport cars now have 20's stock. I digress back to topic anyone lowered on 20's? Nevermind the 22's doh!
That does not mean anything if their on newer cars, those cars are a different style and body then what our third gens are. Put 17/18's on them and watch them look out of place or plain out bad. Point is, the magic size for our cars are 15/16/17's. Some can pull it off with bigger wheels but that is going over the line of flashyness vs good design.
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20's can be done and look fine, but it has a lot to do with the style wheel and what tire is used, never seen anything larger that looks right. the ride quality is pretty bad with a wheel that larger with such a thin tire
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Anyway, my suspension is stock at the moment with cut springs, and my wheel/tire combo is below:
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15x8.5" (rear)
15x4" (front)
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If it was my only car I may not have gone that low,....but since it's not, I decided to go ahead and drop it. Basically I just go over speed bumbs a little slower and pull into driveways at an angle. I don't think that's too much of a sacrifice for having a bitchin lookin ride. Well, semi/bitchin lookin anyway.....I still need to paint it black after I put my cowl scoop on.
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I dropped mine 2 inches from stock worn out springs.. It does have a little bit of a rake, aswell.. I gotta get some new pics..
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Also for all the old timers who are not sure what that purple car is heres an explanation. Once again an explanation not my taste or would I ever drive one. Those are called DONKS...They get the name from donkey kong as in "really big" they get big lifts and wheels. THe wheels int he pics I think are lexani's and they only come in 27's So those are presumably 27's with a monster ish 4 inch lift. They only lift the car to get the bigger wheels to fit. It defenitely looks silly but it is not cheap so dont mistake poor tase or bad looks for CHEAP lol.... Anyhow the original thread dudes car looks sick with 15's and I actually think its sorta hard looking. That is a good thing as for me I will be putting the 20 inch irocs on my new 3rd gen and lowering after I put the wheels on. I was hoping to get a meatier sidewall but price is envolved so a 35 series will have to do hence the 27 inch tall tire. THanks guys
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r1, that pic of the blue convertible you posted does not have an LS1. Your thinking of a different blue convertible.
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Well, I finally got around to pulling my springs out and cutting them today. I had to cut a total of one and a half coils off the front springs, and two and a half coils off the back to achieve the ride height I wanted.
The only thing I need to do now is have my exhaust pipe modified. It sits too low directly after where the two pipes come together. (Between there and the Cat) You'll see what I mean in the last picture. It's only 2.25" inches from the ground as of right now. There's enough ground cleance everywhere else to handle such things as speed bumps and pitched driveways as long as I go slow. (which I obviously will)
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That pack of smokes is exactly 2-1/8" wide, so yeah,......2-1/4" is definitely not going to cut it. I'll be raising the exhaust up tomorrow!
The only thing I need to do now is have my exhaust pipe modified. It sits too low directly after where the two pipes come together. (Between there and the Cat) You'll see what I mean in the last picture. It's only 2.25" inches from the ground as of right now. There's enough ground cleance everywhere else to handle such things as speed bumps and pitched driveways as long as I go slow. (which I obviously will)
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That pack of smokes is exactly 2-1/8" wide, so yeah,......2-1/4" is definitely not going to cut it. I'll be raising the exhaust up tomorrow!