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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 10:03 AM
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Anyone ever heard of cross drilled rotos cracking?

Looking at upgrading my brakes in the far distant future and I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of cross drilled rotos cracking? I've heard numerous people say that they are prone to shattering but if this is the case then why do people buy them?

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 02:07 PM
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I've heard of it. Why do people buy them?

1. Because they look cool.
2. Because if they're good for the track they must be good for the street.

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 03:34 PM
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You could use a slotted rotor...

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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 04:11 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeH:
You could use a slotted rotor...

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You should use a GOOD QUALITY rotor... whether it's slotted or cross drilled.


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Old Apr 9, 2001 | 06:12 PM
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check with the pad manufacturer and see if its even necessary to drill the rotors (unless weigth is your deal). We ran rotors on the TransAm cars (SCCA TransAm series) that weren't even slotted, per the pad manufacturers advice. (PFC pads, alcon rotors).
The fact that a rotor is drilled should have no affect on whether it will crack or not (when they get hot, they get hot).
I'm not sure what the advantages are and how the racing stuff differs from street applications, so I'll shut up now


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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 12:36 AM
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I have heard that the process that the holes are made effects the life of a drilled rotor. If the rotor was cast with the hoels in it, it will live longer than if the holes were drilled after the disc was made. Sounds like a valid reason to me. I guess the drilling could make small microscopic cracks in the metal around the hole, and eventually spread.
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 07:47 AM
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Cross drilling/slotting reduces brake swept area. 99 44/100 of all race cars use full face rotors
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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 09:26 AM
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Look here: http://www.ws6.com/cryo.htm

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Old Apr 10, 2001 | 03:04 PM
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I have had Powerstop cross-drilled rotors since March 2000 (a little over a year now) with just under 20,000 miles of occasional spirited driving on them, and they're not cracked or in any way deficient.

Just one experience. Take it how you will.
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Old Apr 12, 2001 | 10:41 AM
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Cross-drilling the rotors was mainly to give the gases generated by heating the pads (stepping on the brake....) someplace to go. the problem you run into is on the inside of the swept area (between the disc faces) the drilling process leaves burrs. This is a good place for cracks to start. Most pads manufactured today use compounds that significantly reduce out-gassing of the pads, so cross-drilling is not really necessary.
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