Why didn't all the F-bodies get the "wonder bar"?
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Why didn't all the F-bodies get the "wonder bar"?
I just ordered one of those braces that attach to the bracket that the sway bar attaches to. I also picked one up from the junk yard. Will I notice an improvement in the cars handling?
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It may feel a tad tighter, but probably not. I got mine as preventative medicine for the welds cracking around the steering box (IIRC). Some guys swear it makes a difference, I think it may be a bit tighter, but hard to say - let us know what you think once it's in. 
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I put global west units on both of mine. The Formula used to make some idiot noises when the wheels were turned full lock but now it doesn't. I got a bigger 'Yeah Baby!!!' outta myself when I put on the strut tower brace.
Don't have a STB on the GTA but I know I can go around the corners pretty good with the wonder bar on better than before.
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'89 Formula - Thunderchicken - 355 Vette L98/T-5/3.45 9-bolt/black/t-tops - the fun car!
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Don't have a STB on the GTA but I know I can go around the corners pretty good with the wonder bar on better than before.
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'89 Formula - Thunderchicken - 355 Vette L98/T-5/3.45 9-bolt/black/t-tops - the fun car!
'90 GTA - The GTA - 5.0 LB9/TH700/3.27 9-bolt/black/t-tops/tan leather - the cruiser.
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I installed an iroc bar under my sport coupe. It made a big difference with the handling as it seemed to have "tightened" up the front end.
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This is a little off topic, but I agree with Brian. I recently installed the Edelbrock strut tower brace. It made a very noticable improvement in the handling on my car.
My question would be why they didnt install a STB from the factory?
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My question would be why they didnt install a STB from the factory?
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Umm. Actually the Camaro came with the wonder bar. It was only the Firebirds and Trans Ams that didn't have it.
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Just to clear this up for me, is the wonderbar the HUGE front sway bar or is it something else?
Thanks,
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Thanks,
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OldblueZ: It's the part in the middle of this picture (courtesy of globalwest). It bolts up under the front sway bar. Globalwest's prices went up... it's now $46. Was $40.
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'89 Formula - Thunderchicken - 355 Vette L98/T-5/3.45 9-bolt/black/t-tops - the fun car!
'90 GTA - The GTA - 5.0 LB9/TH700/3.27 9-bolt/black/t-tops/tan leather - the cruiser.
[This message has been edited by Brian Shaughnessy (edited December 12, 2000).]
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'89 Formula - Thunderchicken - 355 Vette L98/T-5/3.45 9-bolt/black/t-tops - the fun car!
'90 GTA - The GTA - 5.0 LB9/TH700/3.27 9-bolt/black/t-tops/tan leather - the cruiser.
[This message has been edited by Brian Shaughnessy (edited December 12, 2000).]
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88IROCZ, no, not all Camaros got it; just ones with the "performance suspension", like an IROC... believe me, if it was that easy to find one in a junkyard, I'd have a few by now 
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There is one more "wonder bar" at the junkyard I got mine at. I might head over there and get the swaybar from the IROC's as well, if they don't charge too much for them.
The "wonder bar" is only $25 from the dealer (actually it's $35, but we get a club discount from the pontiac dealer).
The "wonder bar" is only $25 from the dealer (actually it's $35, but we get a club discount from the pontiac dealer).
If you say it is only $35 at the dealership then why is globalwest $46? What advantages does the aftermarket one have over the OEM one.
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The Globel West version is much beefier.
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If I purchace one what else would I need. I am assuming it is a bolt on part. Does it come woth bolts? Are the holed pre drilled and tapped in the sub-frame?
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It uses the sway bar bushing bolts. Install is as easy as unbolting 4 bolts, slipping the bar into place, and bolting those 4 bolts back in.
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do it up!! I'm going as far as a custum ten point roll cage to stiffen the frame along with $1500 worth of suspension add ons.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">If you want to know how EASY it is to install, follow this link ----> W Bar Install
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 90 Z28SS:
I have a 90 Iroc/350/G92 car and the mounting points are there , but no wonder bar came on mine
. I didnt even know that some had them till I saw it on here .</font>
I have a 90 Iroc/350/G92 car and the mounting points are there , but no wonder bar came on mine
. I didnt even know that some had them till I saw it on here .</font>
That might be the case, but it wont be when I get my hands on your car! I've got a silver powdercoated wonderbar lined up for it!
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Don't forget, it's not just taking off the 4 bolts and putting it back up. It's gotta be done w/ a loaded suspension, which means ramps, although, reamps don't work w/ ground effects.
you have to jack up the car and put ramps under it.
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you have to jack up the car and put ramps under it.------------------
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Justin 87 GTA:
Don't forget, it's not just taking off the 4 bolts and putting it back up. It's gotta be done w/ a loaded suspension, which means ramps, although, reamps don't work w/ ground effects.
you have to jack up the car and put ramps under it.
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Don't forget, it's not just taking off the 4 bolts and putting it back up. It's gotta be done w/ a loaded suspension, which means ramps, although, reamps don't work w/ ground effects.
you have to jack up the car and put ramps under it.</font>
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