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Old May 15, 2001 | 10:47 AM
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What is the General feeling on the 1LE brakes?

I know a lot of people swap to them, but I was wondering how these compare to a baer or brembo set up that would be street worthy. I personaly have not driven a car with better brakes than my TTA's, even an LT4 Corvette, maybey it was because the Vette had ABS though.



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Old May 16, 2001 | 10:31 AM
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Nobody cares about the 1LE's huh?
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Old May 16, 2001 | 11:54 AM
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I think the reason no one has answered is that people generally go to the 1LEs or Baer/Brembos from the STOCK front brakes. I don't personally know of anyone that has gone from 1LE to Baer/Brembo or vice versa, or even know anyone with both systems on separate cars.

I have 1LE's on my 84. I like them. Are they better than Brembo/Baer? I don't know. Probably not. But they are cheaper.


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Old May 16, 2001 | 06:09 PM
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If money is NO object. Then get the most expensive brakes you can find. But for the rest of us. 1LE is plenty. I know that my 1LE equipped car could not stop any better, with out a healthy increase in my tire budget.

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Old May 17, 2001 | 07:16 AM
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I like the swap but not the increase in unsprung weight of those 12inch rotors- I'd realy like to replace those 1le rotors with billet aluminum rotor hubs and a bolt on brake rotor.
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Old May 17, 2001 | 10:20 AM
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The 1LE brakes are great, and have more than enough stopping power for our non-ABS third-gens, especially with race pads. See what happened when I slammed on the brakes (with race pads) at 115 mph last year:

http://users.erols.com/gcwestph/Pictures.html

It's the last picture on the page.

As far as unsprung weight, I know the aluminum 1LE caliper is quite a bit lighter than the stock iron caliper, so the overall weights are pretty close. Considering that the spindles are lighter (a section of them is cut off), the 1LE's might even be lighter.

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Old May 17, 2001 | 05:29 PM
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Like I said,"if money is no object,then just get only the best". But most of us(including me) simply can't afford it. I would love a set of 6 piston Bremo's w/carbon rotors. But it's that darn $$$ thing again.
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Old May 28, 2001 | 03:34 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kyle F:
I know a lot of people swap to them, but I was wondering how these compare to a baer or brembo set up that would be street worthy. I personaly have not driven a car with better brakes than my TTA's, even an LT4 Corvette, maybey it was because the Vette had ABS though.

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Dude, your TTA has 1LE brakes already. Didn't you know that?
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Old May 30, 2001 | 07:00 AM
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Aren't the 1LE front calipers on these 3rd Gen cars still a single piston style?
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Old May 30, 2001 | 09:32 AM
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the front 1le calipers are a dual piston caliper and the rear is a single psiton, however they are made out of aluminum, and have bigger rotors on the front...

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Old May 30, 2001 | 11:10 AM
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I race a 1LE Camaro with the SCCA and still have the stock 1LE setup. Most of my competetors run a seperate hat/rotor set up or the Baer setup. There is not a big difference in breaking ability. The difference is in weight. The Baer and the sepearate rotor/hat combo weighs roughly 10ibs less per wheel. I run the stock 1LE setup as its half the cost.
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Old May 30, 2001 | 07:53 PM
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wow.. I didn't know the TTA had 1LE!!! kewl... learned a new thang today.

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Old May 31, 2001 | 08:00 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 911LE:
The Baer and the sepearate rotor/hat combo weighs roughly 10ibs less per wheel. I run the stock 1LE setup as its half the cost.</font>
only 10lbs - I think they start at $499 a set- well my decision's made
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Old May 31, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mrgto:
Dude, your TTA has 1LE brakes already. Didn't you know that?</font>
Yea I knew that I was just thinking that I might eventually upgrade to something else, but from the concenous here I think they are good enough for anything I will ever do with the car.

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