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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 11:39 AM
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rear drums to discs

i know this has probably been asked a million times over, but, here it goes again:

how can i change my rear drums to discs???(sigh) what do i need to buy???
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 02:10 PM
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I think since you have a later model, all you need is the proportioning valve and obliously the rear. There is some issue with the master cylinderm but i think thats for earlier years. Other than the prop. valve and the obvious you should be good to go.

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 06:11 PM
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Don't change your master cylinder or proportioning valve. If you have a 10 bolt you may be able to install the PBR aluminum calipers on your stock rear.
Check the Spohn Preformace board on this.

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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 02:49 AM
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You need to buy a whole disc rear end, preferably one from an 89-92 f-body. My dad got one from an 89 GTA, 9-bolt with 3.27's, and it was a direct bolt-in. He just had to change his speedo gears in his trans for the new ratio.

If you get a rear end from an 82-88 f-body, then you might have to change the master cylinder, proportioning valve, and the parking brake stuff.


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Old Jun 7, 2001 | 06:15 PM
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Check the 1LE board frequently (Spohn Performance). Info on this conversion will be coming soon.
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Old Jun 8, 2001 | 04:40 PM
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Stainless Steel Brakes sells a bolt-on kit. It costs around $700....
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Old Jun 8, 2001 | 06:29 PM
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You do not have to get a new rear end. The durm brake rearend has two bolt holes at the bottum of the flange. they line up with the two bottum holes on the disc backing plate,just need to be drill them to the size of the backing plate holes. The top of the flange will need to be cut off to the bottum of the big hole. then mount the backing plate on and mark the location of the top two holes and drill them to the size disc backing plate holes. That kit you can get from SS brakes will tell you to do this. This will work for PBR brakes or the cast iron brakes, because both have the same bolt pattern.
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Old Jun 8, 2001 | 07:20 PM
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I switched from drums to disc in my IROC, I bought a 9-bolt borg warner disc rear from thirdgenresource.com for $350, it's a much stronger rear end than that crap a$$ 10 bolt, I also got the disc brake master cylinder and proportioning valve from them. THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO THE CONVERSION and its only $350- $400!!
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Old Jun 8, 2001 | 09:11 PM
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IROCTOM, use your stock (J50) master cyl, and prop valve.
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Old Jun 8, 2001 | 10:02 PM
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OK YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPLACE THE MASTER CYLINDER/PROP VALVE. REPEAT YOU DO NOT NEED TO REPLACE THEM. Everything is the same not matter the disk/drum set up. Thats why the 1LE systems use the same master clyinder as my 92 RS disk/drum. I looked it up in a parts book. And to let everyone know now most later year 3rd gen DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROP VALVE!. Its inside the master clyinder!.
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Old Jun 9, 2001 | 04:47 PM
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There is no cutting or drilling with the Stainless Steel Brake kit. It is a straight bolt on, take a look at the article in the new issue of Camaro Performance...
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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 01:05 PM
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The reason i switched to the other master cyl. and prop. valve is i called the chevy dealership, and they said they are different part numbers. thirdgenresource threw them in at no extra cost. some people say you have to switch them, some people say you don't, it's only a few minutes of work to swap them, so i figured better safe than sorry!
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Old Jun 11, 2001 | 09:43 PM
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I went back to the stock disc/drum master cylinder on my 1LE conversion. I had used the J65 disc/disc master cylinder. The J50 disc/drum master cylinder was a BIG impovement.
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Old Jun 12, 2001 | 07:02 AM
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I swapped in a 9-bolt rear about 6 months ago. That is it so far and I drive it every day.

With that said, I have an adjustable prop valve in the back seat (for about 6 months) and I need to buy a new master cylinder at Autozone and install these. This is because my rear brakes are not doing squat. They work a little, but not enough to feel good about! This is on a 1984 car though... you don't need to do all this.

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Old Jun 13, 2001 | 06:46 PM
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I also have a 9 Bolt. I use the stock J50 disc/drum master cyl. with the GM#14089496 proportioning valve, and my rear brakes really work well.
Rubber on the road testing is really the only way.

[This message has been edited by ANDYZ28 (edited June 14, 2001).]
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Old Jun 13, 2001 | 10:15 PM
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I would suggest keeping the drum brakes. Wish i had 4 wheel drum brakes. You can make them work great and they dont drag like disc. Also they dont dirty up your wheels.
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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 05:29 AM
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The problem with drum brakes, is that they are not nearly as efficent at dissipating heat. And this makes them much more prone to brake fade. Thak a rear drum set up out on a quiet, straight road. And make 10 consecutive 50-0 aggressive brake stops. As you get progressivle closer to the 10th stop. you wil really notice the onset of brake fade. Something to be always avoided if possible. this is very true for our autocrossing friends.
Thanx,ANDYZ28
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