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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUSPE...ht_3187wt_1165

look good to you guys??? cuz i need these parts but just not sure if theyre good
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

I bought one of those kits and it didn't last very long. I'm replacing it now with moog part's.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 02:06 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

mmm...alright...does moog have a kit? how much? links?
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

You can buy Moog parts at pretty much any auto parts store (I.E. Napa, Checker/O'Reily, Autozone..) Don't think they do a "package" though.

Spohn makes parts too, I've heard good things: http://www.spohn.net/shop/1982-1992-...sion-Steering/
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 04:39 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

I have a mix of Moog and Spohn parts... I like the Spohn parts because they are zinc coated and the tie rods were easier to get threaded into the tie rod adjusters than the Moogs were. Also, with the Spohn tie rods and adjusters I am able turn the adjusters by hand very easily.
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

hmm...alright..anyone got a list of parts needed for the front end?
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Old Sep 4, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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found the sticky O.o
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 12:55 AM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

You probably won't need to replace the pitman arm though, if that was listed as a part needing to be replaced in the sticky
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 01:26 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

and whys that?
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 03:44 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

If you've looked at it, it's really very very solid, and it's not a "wear" part like many of the other front end parts (Like ball joints and such) are.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 03:48 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

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If you've looked at it, it's really very very solid, and it's not a "wear" part like many of the other front end parts (Like ball joints and such) are.
what he said. the pitman arm is a not wear item, there are no joints or anything on it. Only time to replace it would be if the arm is damaged from an accident or somebody cutting it for whatever reason.
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 04:10 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

ohh i see...what side is it on?? driver?
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Old Sep 5, 2010 | 04:31 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

The pitman arm is on the driver's side, it's the arm thing that transfers movement from the steering box to the center link
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

well...hehe..i got in a little 1 car accident a while ago. thru my alignment off. MIGHT have damaged the pitman arm...
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:48 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

Ouch, that sucks. I doubt the pitman arm itself was bent up though, the "weak links" in the steering system are gonna get mangled up before it does. Post a pic of it if you can, but I'd bet the pitman arm is alright
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

yea it does ill get some pics of the under side later..pretty hot out right now
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

Originally Posted by itsMikey
well...hehe..i got in a little 1 car accident a while ago. thru my alignment off. MIGHT have damaged the pitman arm...
Do you know you need steering parts? Or did something just get banged out of alignment that you can realign?

Unless you have actual bad parts, there might not be a need to replace the whole system. You might just need one adjuster or something, if it stripped it out when it shifted the alignment.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:46 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

the centerlink is kinda rusted in the....center -_- lol...
and the dude at pep boys said my idler arm was bad? so he couldent re-align it all the way...so why not replace all the 21 year old parts?
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

Originally Posted by itsMikey
the centerlink is kinda rusted in the....center -_- lol...
and the dude at pep boys said my idler arm was bad? so he couldent re-align it all the way...so why not replace all the 21 year old parts?
Yeah, i had to replace the idler arm and center link on my previous bird. It wasn't too tough, did it myself, and got the alignment really close with thread counting and careful measuring of the tires.

If you want to throw a full kit into it, no reason not to. Those ball joints though? Rent the tool. You may think you can do it with a vice and a big hammer.. but rent the tool.
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Old Sep 6, 2010 | 08:12 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

i dont remember who i bought it from but i ordered one of those kits. it was 149.99. when i got it in it was moog parts.
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

Originally Posted by Maeryk
Yeah, i had to replace the idler arm and center link on my previous bird. It wasn't too tough, did it myself, and got the alignment really close with thread counting and careful measuring of the tires.

If you want to throw a full kit into it, no reason not to. Those ball joints though? Rent the tool. You may think you can do it with a vice and a big hammer.. but rent the tool.
ill probably end up doing it myself this way...

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i dont remember who i bought it from but i ordered one of those kits. it was 149.99. when i got it in it was moog parts.
links????
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 12:48 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

Actually looks like they are moog parts.


This is a 12 part SUSPENSION set of:
2 Inner Tie Rod End 2-ES2227RL 2 Outer Tie Rod End 2-ES2226RL 2 Sleeves 2-ES2032S
2 Lower Ball Joints 2-K6145T 2 Upper Ball Joint 2-K5208
1 Idler Arm 1-K6249 1 Drag Link 1-DS1049
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:31 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

the ebay one?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

No I was mistaken ebay one is cheap china stuff.

I am just going to order from spohn or oreilly or amazon for the cheapest moog stuff.


Anything other than moog just isnt durable.


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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:52 PM
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amazon?? gonna check that out...spohn is to pricey for mehh
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

I tightened my steering box up and that made a world of diffrence car has 144k miles on it but it was driven easy. I still plan on changing my idler, and my center link, but the rest can wait for 20-50k more miles.



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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 08:56 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

how to tighten the steering box??
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 09:46 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

There is a big nut right below the rag joint loosen that then take a spanner wrench or small screwdriver and tighten to 20 ft lbs or approximate then back out 1/2 inch then tighten down locknut. Its a huge nut on the box and you will see little divets. Let me put it this way before i tightened mine up it was sloppier than a cheap yeah. Now its firm and crisp.

Now go down to the one that has the allen head and bolt. Loosen the bolt 4-5 turns turn the allen head all the way in. Make sure the wheels are straight now tighten it till it stops then back out 1/4 to 1/2 a turn. And recheck.


Bingo alot better.

Above worked for me. Yeah your supposed to take out the box.
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Old Sep 20, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

http://www.elcaminocentral.com/showthread.php?t=27532

above is where i got the info.


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Old Sep 22, 2010 | 05:28 PM
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Re: Ebay Front End Kit??? anyone?

gonna check it out today after class thanks.
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