Suspension and Chassis Questions about your suspension? Need chassis advice?

Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearance?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:06 PM
  #1  
Zerocyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 265
Likes: 1
From: Spokane, Wa.
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 416 Stroker LS
Transmission: Magnum F
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearance?

So, now that my engine is done, I need to work on the rear. I'm swapping the 2.73s for 4.11s, but also, would like the rear to look a *bit* more aggressive.

Then I remembered that my exhaust guy said it would be too hard fitting 3 inches over the rear axle, and we settled on ending the exhaust with a glass pack and a downward angle just before the rear axle. Well, it's a tad too loud for a DD imo, and would definitely like to go back to the original plan of putting the 3 inches over the axle, and maybe into a 1 in, 2 out muffler.

I figured that maybe if I raise the rear an inch or two, that would be plenty of clearance for the exhaust, and would make the rear look a tad more aggressive.

Anyone ever seen or done this? Any negative side effects? I figure with only 1 or 2 inches it wouldn't be dramatic enough to look bad, but I can't know unless I see it.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:29 PM
  #2  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by Zerocyde
Then I remembered that my exhaust guy said it would be too hard fitting 3 inches over the rear axle...
A 3" isn't an issue.

UMI also makes a panhard relocation kit for added exhaust room: 2024.

JamesC
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 06:43 PM
  #3  
paul_huryk's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 2,754
Likes: 8
From: Ahead of you...
Car: 1984 LG4 Camaro
Engine: 350 Roller Motor
Transmission: Level 10 700R4
Axle/Gears: Strange 12 bolt 3.42
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by Zerocyde
So, now that my engine is done, I need to work on the rear. I'm swapping the 2.73s for 4.11s, but also, would like the rear to look a *bit* more aggressive.

Then I remembered that my exhaust guy said it would be too hard fitting 3 inches over the rear axle, and we settled on ending the exhaust with a glass pack and a downward angle just before the rear axle. Well, it's a tad too loud for a DD imo, and would definitely like to go back to the original plan of putting the 3 inches over the axle, and maybe into a 1 in, 2 out muffler.

I figured that maybe if I raise the rear an inch or two, that would be plenty of clearance for the exhaust, and would make the rear look a tad more aggressive.

Anyone ever seen or done this? Any negative side effects? I figure with only 1 or 2 inches it wouldn't be dramatic enough to look bad, but I can't know unless I see it.
If he's referring to a dual 3" pipe, that might be an issue.

But a single 3" is factory sized and even 3.5" and 4" single exhaust systems fit if they are done properly.

No reason to raise the car, honestly...
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 07:13 PM
  #4  
Zerocyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 265
Likes: 1
From: Spokane, Wa.
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 416 Stroker LS
Transmission: Magnum F
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by paul_huryk
But a single 3" is factory sized
What? My new exhaust looks like a monster compared to what was stock. That can't be right.
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 07:38 PM
  #5  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by Zerocyde
What? My new exhaust looks like a monster compared to what was stock. That can't be right.
IIRC, there was an OE 2 1/2 and a 2 3/4 (often called a 3). My Hooker 3" fits without issue.

JamesC
Reply
Old Dec 23, 2012 | 07:46 PM
  #6  
musicfreako's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 199
Likes: 1
From: Allegan, MI
Car: 89' camaro RS TTOP
Engine: 92 5.0tpi Bosch III, headers, msd
Transmission: 700r4 built. trans go. 2,300 stall
Axle/Gears: 3:73 posi ls disc brake conversion
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

My obx 3" fits no issues
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2012 | 10:21 AM
  #7  
paul_huryk's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 1999
Posts: 2,754
Likes: 8
From: Ahead of you...
Car: 1984 LG4 Camaro
Engine: 350 Roller Motor
Transmission: Level 10 700R4
Axle/Gears: Strange 12 bolt 3.42
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by Zerocyde
What? My new exhaust looks like a monster compared to what was stock. That can't be right.
If you have a 305 TBI, the 2.25" exhaust would look tiny compared to a 3" one.

I have a 3.5" Mufflex cat-back on my Camaro, it is lowered and never had any issues at all.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2012 | 10:25 AM
  #8  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by paul_huryk
If you have a 305 TBI, the 2.25" exhaust would look tiny compared to a 3" one.
Now that I think about it, my LG4 was equipped with the 2.25. The after market was 2.5, and the L69 was 2.75 (which made the original look pretty scrawny).

JamesC
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2012 | 12:48 PM
  #9  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 27,866
Likes: 2,428
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

I have a Hooker 3" on my car; fits like a glove. No raising required. Fits exactly in the stock location.

I'd STRONGLY suggest a boxed-set approach from a major mfr like that, as opposed to a "custom" muffler shop setup.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2012 | 02:41 PM
  #10  
Zerocyde's Avatar
Thread Starter
Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 265
Likes: 1
From: Spokane, Wa.
Car: 88 Camaro
Engine: 416 Stroker LS
Transmission: Magnum F
Axle/Gears: 4.11
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by paul_huryk
If you have a 305 TBI, the 2.25" exhaust would look tiny compared to a 3" one.
Yea, I had the 305 tbi before I built my carbed 355.

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
I have a Hooker 3" on my car; fits like a glove. No raising required. Fits exactly in the stock location.

I'd STRONGLY suggest a boxed-set approach from a major mfr like that, as opposed to a "custom" muffler shop setup.
Can you buy a full, 3 inch, "headers to y-pipe to straight over the axle to catback" that fits with aftermarket headers? I have hooker shorties, with one side different to clear the clutch slave cylinder.
Reply
Old Dec 24, 2012 | 03:17 PM
  #11  
JamesC's Avatar
Moderator
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 19,282
Likes: 103
From: Lawrence, KS
Car: Met. Silver 85 IROC/Sold
Engine: 350 HO Deluxe (350ci/330hp)
Transmission: T-5 (Non-WC)
Axle/Gears: Limited Slip 3.23's
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Originally Posted by Zerocyde
Can you buy a full, 3 inch, "headers to y-pipe to straight over the axle to catback"...
Yes. Hooker 2055's with Y-pipe (Jeg's 520-2055). Catco high-flow converter (Summit CTO-9118). Hooker catback (Summit HOK-16823HKR).

The above is direct fit--no modding, cutting, bending, etc.

JamesC
Reply
Old Dec 25, 2012 | 11:05 AM
  #12  
sofakingdom's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Community Builder
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 27,866
Likes: 2,428
Car: Yes
Engine: Usually
Transmission: Sometimes
Axle/Gears: Behind me somewhere
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Yup.

I have SLP 1¾" headers with their included Y-pipe, a similar Catco cat as James except mine is the 4-bolt-flange one, and I think that same Hooker part # he listed. Bolts up as good as if not better than stock.

Not sure about anything having to do with "slave cylinder" making any difference. The above fits fine with both a T-56 and a T-5. If however, you have some random headers that you already know fail to fit the car, all bets are off. Might be a good idea to start over in that dept with something that actually fits the car, and then exhaust that fits the car will pretty much be a slam-dunk certainty that they'll fit that too.

As far as buying something off-the-shelf to fit whatever random headers you now have, that's impossible to predict. My gut however doesn't feel warm or fuzzy about it.
Reply
Old Dec 26, 2012 | 11:37 AM
  #13  
DBLTKE's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 11
From: Aloha, Oregon
Car: '91 Camaro Z28, '85 Camaro Z28
Engine: LB9, LB9
Transmission: T5, 700r4
Axle/Gears: Eaton 3.73 Posi, 3.23 Posi
Re: Any negative side-effects from raising the rear 1 or 2 inches for exhaust clearan

Find a new "exhaust guy." if he can't fit a stock sized exhaust on the car then he's either incredibly lazy or incompetent.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
1992 Trans Am
History / Originality
27
May 10, 2023 07:19 PM
customblackbird
Suspension and Chassis
4
Aug 15, 2021 10:16 PM
Vintageracer
Camaros for Sale
12
Jan 10, 2020 05:33 PM
69 Six Pack
Camaros for Sale
13
Oct 5, 2015 07:51 PM
gta power
Exhaust
1
Aug 13, 2015 06:15 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 AM.