It is going to be their 'ExtReme' systems squeezed into the FBody chassis. Closest year and model cars version starts at 7300 dollars. Depending on what it really consists of Id guess it starts at 5-7k. Essentially you would be cutting out the strut towers, removing the K-Member, and welding in their cross member.

What I had thought would be a good route in terms of cost and performance would have been something like the SLA kits that have popped up for Mustangs. Would be cool to have a system that used stock Corvette spindles/uprights and hubs possibly with stock style 4th gen dampers/springs.

I have zero doubt that it will be an amazing piece but given what I know of this community and even the best ThirdGen builds.. I simply dont see it selling well at all and it being discontinued.

 

Can you share where you got your info from?

They first announced 3 years ago that they were making a SLA front suspension and then never did it. Ron Sutton did the geometry for them.

 

So... Ron Sutton is apparently little more than a scamming POS from teh infor I found and that relationship went poof. Seriously, there was a LOT of drama over his bullshit on Pro-touring, LatG, etc. He however wanted them to chop the entire front off and weld on a new front subframe.

My infor comes from Speedtech on LatG. One of their reps has been posting updates.

https://lateral-g.net/forums/showthr...t=53104&page=7

 

All of the personal venom aside...

The strut tower in our cars, a MAJOR structural element, is right exactly where a UCA would need to go. One way or another it has to be altered significantly. Either as part of the "kit", or by the installer, or both.

I'm not sure the benefits are worth the trouble compared to, say, coilovers. Butt hay... if the people want it, and are willing to pay what it takes to get it, I wish em luck.

 

There reaches a point where it's just smarter to buy a different kind of car.

 

Agreed.
If you have the abilities (or enough money to pay someone else) to significantly alter a thirdgen to the extent that kit would require for that kit you'd be better off getting a Factory Five car, Porsche, newer Corvette, etc.

And weld in the crossmember?

 

Roadster Shop has a full frame for these. Starts at ONLY $17,500!

http://roadstershop.com/product/full...amaro-chassis/

 

I saw that... I laughed a hardy guttural laugh.


Fun part about a couple of the Mustang kits is they either replace the strut tower portion with their own (both bolt in and weld) or work in conjunction with it. Actually neat systems.

 

Speedtech gave some guidance this morning on another Forum

"The price for the complete kit will be about the same as a full chassis for any other application".

Their F-Body kits, all-in, run about $13-$15k. I was hoping it would be closer to their G-Body kit in the $5k - $7k range. Doesn't sound to me like that's the case.

The kit requires "...some cutting and welding … on the front, the mid frame requires some trimming of the factory frame rails to allow for true dual exhaust." They do not yet have a solution to hole left once the strut mounts are removed, the kit is still in some stage of development.

Sutton did in fact do the geometry on their Extreme front kits. Speedtech has been clear the frame and rear suspension is their own design. The consensus is that it is an excellent kit, Sutton knows how to design a suspension, he got out over his skis, ripped people off, lied to friends and customers and deservedly lost his business.

 

13-15 for front and back?

 

Update posted two days ago:

"Just finalizing pricing
With Ridetech single adjustable (custom Valved)
Front Subframe
Mid sub frame connector kit
Rear torque arm

10,999.00

Rear end extra 3199.00 9" 31 spline Tru Track Nodular 3rd member"

So yes, my estimate was correct. comes to $14,198

I think their torque arm has a standard mount. If so, and you already have a rear diff, then $11K for their suspension package. Too rich for my blood!

 

thats insane..

Oh youre on latG as well haha..xD

 

I agree. However, for someone REALLY serious about SCCA C.A.M. class or OUSCI, this would be the suspension package, hands down. SLA camber curve, ackerman, choice of shocks, 3" dual exhaust. There NO other way on the market to get any of that.

 

Yes, the quotes I posted are directly from Lat G from Blake Foster.

 

Idea of what I was hoping for but without the high dollar penskes and such:

 

Dual exhaust is available for the 3rd gen.

 

I posted my idea for a package on Lat G
You could package up the front for ~$3,000 or $4,250 w/ K-Member/A-Arms (if you even care to compete in that space) If it were me, I'd offer A-Arms for the stock K-Member so you wouldn't send a customer to another vendor and because the A-Arms are easy to design. So call it $3,500 for the front w/ A-Arms

The rear should be priced like your other torque arm packages @ ~$2,500

That would sell like HOTCAKES!

The price point would be:

 

I went too far with my statement. You can get a 2 1/2" dual exhaust, that's true. Those systems are pretty restrictive. I'll edit my post to clarify I meant 3" dual exhaust.

 

That company is out of it's mind. Purchase a Thirdgen to mod for $5-10K and then drop that much or more on only suspension? Ridiculous.
Even if a person wanted to get obscenely serious about Autocross those modifications would bump you into the stratosphere or keep you in CAM class where you'd be up against better cars like Corvettes. If a person has that much money they are better off buying a Corvette or one of 1999-2004 IRS Mustang Cobras.

 

Update: Their torque arm has a completely different mount. You must buy a new diff in order to run their rear suspension.

 

Feast your eyes on the wonderful yet over engineered for what the community would want or could afford on average.

 

They just reconstructed the entire suspension and bottom of the car. You would need a frame rack to install this

 

didnt think about that one. Not sure if they replacing the front frame rails though. the subframe connectors are pretty traditional fare.

 

We've been talking about this system with them for 3 or so years now at various events. It would be even better if they had done an IRS for the rear but that would have made it more expensive too. At this price there will be a few serious racers buy it but that's about it. Plus it involves a fair amount of cutting and welding which puts it out of many people's ability to install which adds more to the cost for the fabrication and labor. I'm waiting to see the shop car come out when they debut it. They have a couple serious drivers on staff that should be a lot of fun to watch wheel the car.

 

Man the 3rd gen crowd cracks me up. I've been following their thread about this on pro-touring .com

The price isn't bad at all for what you're getting.

Does it cost more than the car? Probably but I only paid $2000 for my 69 Firebird and wouldn't hesitate to put $15k worth of suspension parts under it.

Would it make more sense to buy something else? Depends what you want. Modifying cars is about building what you want, not what "makes sense".

My GTA is never going anywhere, I'm already a big fan of Speedtech's parts, and unless something better comes out by the time I want to do more upgrades to my car, I'd be willing to buy this.

 

Most guys on these boards have one or two hobby cars and you have 12 which makes me assume you have a large amount of disposable income. Aren't you also the same guy that bought four sets of speed engineering headers at once for your vehicles? I'm guessing that a pretty healthy income which allows you to think $15K? Yeah, why not.

That aside, the price is still horrible for what you are getting, regardless of how much money one has to spend on parts. You can buy a C4/C5 covette for less than that and you could probably buy a C5 Z06 or Grand Sport for that price.

 

while you are correct with your comments to some extent, i think there are becoming more people willing to put $ into third gens, it certainly isn't a large group yet but it is growing... you can see the price of the third gens in general going up... it really isn't about does it make sense from a financial standpoint, i think of it more as if your focus is third gens and you want to make something different and also like auto-x, etc this might be something to consider.

i am not sure i would do this, but also i am not sure i won't once i see it installed on their demo car. if i didn't have my own ability to do these types of projects myself i wouldn't pay for someone to do something like this, but there will probably be some who would

my bigger point is that it is great more and more products are coming out for third gens. even just ten years ago you had to fab a lot of stuff yourself and/or the quality of parts like aftermarket k memebers / a-arms etc was not so great... things are becoming much better for us all the way around!

 

This kind of money only makes sense for people racing in classes where the purse justifies it. Street, typical weekend warrior drag racers, SCCA class-rule people, etc. aren't going to go there.

That said, SOMEDAY, (maybe not tomorrow or next week, but SOMEDAY) these cars will be sort of like 50s Ford Anglias at the track. The kind of car where people will WANT to see them out there, but in anything like stock trim, they will be HOPELESSLY outclassed. This kind of thing might keep them running.

The Pro Touring folks are another possibility. I am forced to confess I have NEVER built such a car and as such have little knowledge to offer to people doing that particular activity. Maybe, on down the road, that would be another possible application. Sorry, my crystal ball (yes I own one) hasn't revealed that to me, yet.

Regardless, I wouldn't dismiss this as "overkill" or "stupid" or whatever, as long as, it's understood that it has its place. Not everything in this hobby is universally "good" or "bad" or even "best"; it's all about SUITABILITY FOR A PURPOSE. Evaluate your purpose wisely and choose whatever gets you there with the least expense, risk, time, effort, fab, personal danger, or whatever else acts as YOUR constraint or limit.

 

 

would love to see more pics of this system installed.