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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 11:59 AM
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Best front end steering components.

Need to replace all my front end steering components. Very clacky front end. My tie rods have more play than some hookers. I remember reading about some tie rods that dont fit very well so just trying to see what works. Part numbers thanks.
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 12:17 PM
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Re: Best front end steering components.

The Idler arm is the one you have to be careful with several aftermarket ones don't line up with the existing pitman arm (which you don't replace as there are no joints in it). This can cause horrible sharp low speed turning.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...dler-arms.html

I'll get flamed for this but I run Autozone parts, and a delco idler arm (there is a detailed post on the idler arm if you search). Never had an issue with them. If you get grease-able style make sure you get true inner tie rods with the grease fittings on the end not on the bottom otherwise you can't grease them on the car. Also be careful you can put the drag link/centerlink in reverse and it works fine going straight, but any sharp turns turn it will feel like you are running over your own tires.

Once assembled the idler arm has some up/down adjustment to make sure the drag link is level.

The after market adjuster sleeves are much nicer than factory style.

Not to get into the ackerman and scrub radius conversation but wheel width as well as backspacing has a big effect also. The suspension is very limited in this aspect. If you move the "turning center" of the tire patch out or in too much with wheels it will feel like you are dragging a tire (because you actually are) when turning deep.
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 11:11 AM
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Re: Best front end steering components.

Originally Posted by Aviator857
The Idler arm is the one you have to be careful with several aftermarket ones don't line up with the existing pitman arm (which you don't replace as there are no joints in it). This can cause horrible sharp low speed turning.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/susp...dler-arms.html

I'll get flamed for this but I run Autozone parts, and a delco idler arm (there is a detailed post on the idler arm if you search). Never had an issue with them. If you get grease-able style make sure you get true inner tie rods with the grease fittings on the end not on the bottom otherwise you can't grease them on the car. Also be careful you can put the drag link/centerlink in reverse and it works fine going straight, but any sharp turns turn it will feel like you are running over your own tires.

Once assembled the idler arm has some up/down adjustment to make sure the drag link is level.

The after market adjuster sleeves are much nicer than factory style.

Not to get into the ackerman and scrub radius conversation but wheel width as well as backspacing has a big effect also. The suspension is very limited in this aspect. If you move the "turning center" of the tire patch out or in too much with wheels it will feel like you are dragging a tire (because you actually are) when turning deep.

What do you think of this set? Has anybody ever bought this kit?
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Old Aug 6, 2019 | 09:34 PM
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Re: Best front end steering components.

The Moog parts work for the tie rods and center link.
But only the AC Delco idler arm should be used.
Make sure to get a solid steering shaft while ur at it.
And consider a rebuilt Steering box as well.
If you use an aftermarket Tie rod adjuster, you may have to cut 3/4in off the outer tie rod.

My video covers most of it.

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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Best front end steering components.

Originally Posted by McLovin1181
The Moog parts work for the tie rods and center link.
But only the AC Delco idler arm should be used.
Make sure to get a solid steering shaft while ur at it.
And consider a rebuilt Steering box as well.
If you use an aftermarket Tie rod adjuster, you may have to cut 3/4in off the outer tie rod.

My video covers most of it.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1nFJRU2bK6g
Your video says the AC Delco centerlink must be used, but it is using the Moog Idler arm - can you clarify? Also, tie rod adjusters did you use? Thx!
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Old Aug 28, 2019 | 12:19 PM
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Re: Best front end steering components.

I think I bought the $107 kit you show from Amazon. The idler arm was an exact match for my OEM one. The components looks sturdy but the castle nuts they provide are crap. I stripped two out not even torquing them. I reused my old ones. Much better.
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