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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 02:31 PM
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Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

Looking to stiffen up my crusty ride. Which SFC's tie the most points together?

Thinking about the Detroit Speed ones as they look the beefiest.

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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 05:06 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

you want something like this https://swracecars.com/product/82-92...me-connectors/
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

Detroit Speed hands down, but it's quite invasive and you better have metal fab skills.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 05:47 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

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Detroit Speed hands down, but it's quite invasive and you better have metal fab skills.
Or a buddy with em! haha. That's what I needed to hear.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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Whoa, just looked at the install for those Detroit Speed ones... holy hell haha.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 06:28 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

The Spohn weld-in are very good and not invasive. The welding up can cost a few hundred. The SFC's MUST be installed while the car is sitting normally on its four wheels.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 06:29 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

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Whoa, just looked at the install for those Detroit Speed ones... holy hell haha.
​​​​​​​Ya, it takes a set of gonads to cut up the car to install those.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 06:34 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

The UMI's are pretty solid and non invasive, however if you have a aftermarket/larger exhaust there will be slight modifications to get them installed but that's the case with most out there it seems.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 06:36 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

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Ya, it takes a set of gonads to cut up the car to install those.


I didn't think it was a big deal really. I only had a problem in one area on my car where the sheet metal was a little thin from some rust. I kept blowing holes in about a 1.5" section

​​​​​​​The instructions are REALLY good, plus they have installation videos. You're really only cutting a long thin rectang out of the car on each side, drivers side moreso than the passenger.

Last edited by scooter; Aug 31, 2020 at 06:40 PM.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 08:34 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

The Mopar guys have been installing through-the-floor braces like that in their uni-body cars for a long time. Makes for a very solid connection.
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

I have the S&W setup under my car, mine was put in about 9 years ago. They used to offer two "out-rigger" bars that spanned out about 10" off of each main bar, and these bars tied/bolted directly to the side-rocker panel under our cars. for sure they are on my car but I don't see them in that S&W website photo.
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Old Sep 5, 2020 | 05:14 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

Originally Posted by IROCZman15
I have the S&W setup under my car, mine was put in about 9 years ago. They used to offer two "out-rigger" bars that spanned out about 10" off of each main bar, and these bars tied/bolted directly to the side-rocker panel under our cars. for sure they are on my car but I don't see them in that S&W website photo.

You mean this one?
Link : SWRacecars
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Old Sep 5, 2020 | 08:52 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

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You mean this one?
Link : SWRacecars

yup, thats it, thats hte one I have. the outriggers are a nice easy place to put the floorjack and jack the whole side of the car up at one time. teh exhaust routing for my 3" exhaust is tight, but it works. car is solid. getting a 6 point S&W roll bar installed too this winter and S&W is top notch stuff.
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Old Sep 5, 2020 | 10:39 PM
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Re: Which subframe connectors have the most contact area?

I really like that one, but the shipping price to europe is killing me
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