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Old Jul 25, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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IN/OUT List

Enjoy the list.
Please share some of your own trends and frustrations.

IN-Learning to Mod your TBI for cheap.
OUT-Getting toms of practice Modding all your lazy friends TBI's.

IN-Yanking a front tire.
OUT-Yanking a broken axle.

IN-Open air cleaners, Dual snorkels, and Cold air induction.
OUT-No air cleaner.
OUT-Sucking a sparrow into your intake.

IN-Pop-up headlights.
IN-Blacked-out headlights.
OUT-Firebirds with one winking headlight up.

IN-Swapping TBI's between your three GM vehicles.
IN-Putting your Suburban's TBI on your S-10.
OUT-That your S-10 runs so rich the exhaust brings tears to your eyes.

IN-2.73 gears that let you cruise at 95 MPH.
OUT-2.73 gears that give you upshift bog at 4 grand.

IN-Adjusting your kickdown for neck-breaking shifts.
OUT-Your wife borrowing the car and getting whiplash.

IN-Straight original paint.
OUT-GM cancer (you know who you are).

IN-Driving your F-body in winter with snow tires.
OUT-Driving year-round with snow tires.

IN-Tall rise intakes.
OUT-F-body low clearance hoods.

IN-Stock honeycomb wheels.
OUT-Trying to clean all those little nooks.

IN-True dual exhaust.
OUT-That we can't have it!
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Old Jul 26, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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IN-Driving your F-body in winter with snow tires

I'll augment that....

IN-Driving down the interstate that hasn't even been plowed yet and has 3 inches of snow on the ground past 3 guys in jeep cherokees who are stuck in the ditch... and wondering what the heck their problem is. True story.
Out - Realizing how hard Illinois winters and road salt really are hard on the sheetmetal.
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 09:47 PM
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Engine: 305
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 3.42
dave you forgot one



IN: vic getting his smog pump off

OUT: you being stuck on the same one for long time


sorry I had to blow you alittle smoke
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Old Jul 28, 2002 | 11:45 PM
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-whiny voice-

I'll get it someday! Just watch! Lol. It is pretty funny isn't it, the damn things been on there for more than 2 months.
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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 08:47 AM
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From: Pekin, IL
Car: 91 Formula, 79 Trans Am, 72 LeMans
Engine: 305 TPI, 6.6, 350 Pontiac
Transmission: T5, 3 speed, TH350
In: Having 3 Muscle Cars
Out: Trying to pay for 3 Muscle Cars and being a college student

In: Having a 425 HP engine
Out: Having the rest of the car stock

In: Coming in 3rd place in a burnout contest at a local cruise in
Out: Frying the tires till they almost pop

In: Having a GTO
Out: Bodywork

In: Putting a 455 in the LeMans
Out: The price for a nice rebuild cost $3000

In: Showing up at a cruise in in a modified Camaro
Out: Driving home from a cruise in in pouring rain after you fried the tires off in a burnout contest in a car with no defrost

Well thats all I can think of right now. Later
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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 01:13 PM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
IN: Aero Wing spoilers on Firebirds.
OUT: The fact that they're all cracked and warped.

IN: Pop up headlights
OUT: finding a working headlight motor after pulling 3 of them at a pick/pull yard.
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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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IN: Buying yourself a new (to you) Firebird
OUT: Realizing its been in an accident and nothing inside lines up quite right.

IN: Being young and modifying your 'Bird until it kicks everybody's ***.
OUT: Being a broke college student and realizing these mods are only dreams.
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Old Jul 29, 2002 | 10:11 PM
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Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: 5.0 TBI
Transmission: 700R4 Auto
IN: Loving your 5.0L L03 engine.
OUT: realizing that even $100,000 won't pay for it to out-perform a decent 350
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Old Jul 30, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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More gear-head IN's and OUT's

Here’s a new IN and OUT list to ponder. Feel free to share it and make comments.

In-Paying homage to “old school” gear heads that have passed beyond.
Out-Filling three magazines issues with those stories.
Out-Actually reading all those stories.

In-Friendly street racing.
In-Bench racing.
Out-Making excuses not to race.

In-Scoring a smog era big-block for cheep.
In-Building up the big-block the right way.
Out-Spending enough money on your machinist so that he wants to retire early.

In-Awesome burnouts and power braking.
Out-Hi-rev. neutral drops.
Out-That stick guys have it easy.

In-A big tach. and full instrumentation.
Out-Adding a digital diff. Temp. gauge just to fill another row of gauge pods.

In-Straight vinyl seats.
In-Reupholstered cloth seats.
Out-Stinky, shedding, fax wool seat covers.

In-Consistent, reliable, and cool looking fuel injection.
Out-That every little part for EFI costs as much as a new carb.

In-Scoring a dirt-cheep summer beater with no heater, leaky breaks, and non-functioning wipers.
Out-That some of those beater will be daily drivers this winter.

In-Testing my new motor swap with out any exhaust…at 2 a.m.
In-Going ahead and breaking in the cam too.
Out-The feeling I get that my neighbors are planning to lynch me.

In-Flogging the hell out of an old 305.
In-Replacing the old 305 with a built 350.
Out-Finding out that your old 305 made almost as much power as your new “built” 350.

In-Spending weekends at the junkyard.
Out-Your friends planning an intervention to “get you help”.

In-The art of swapping B.O.P. parts to build a cool cruiser.
Out-Your “Chevy” buddy copying you with less time and money.
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Old Aug 1, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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From: Sahuarita, AZ
Car: 1991 Camaro RS
Engine: L03 305 TBI, nearly stock
Transmission: 700R4, stock
Axle/Gears: 3.23 out of a V6/5 speed car.
IN: Making the 305 perform. Hey, the riceboys are doing it with half the motor-lets show them how it's done!
OUT: Shoehorning a 502 in your F-Body STREET car. Fun yes, but requires twice the value of the car to keep it straight, uncracked, running cool enough, and not squirelly.

IN: Keeping the F-body legend alive!
OUT: That GM cancelled the F-Body As nice as the 4th gen was, it became too high-tech, and way too expensive for the buyers GM was trying to attract.

Last edited by phatkat64; Jun 19, 2004 at 01:54 AM.
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 12:29 AM
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Re: IN/OUT List

Originally posted by AdmiralNahohkta


IN-Adjusting your kickdown for neck-breaking shifts.
OUT-Your wife borrowing the car and getting whiplash.
How do you do this
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Old Aug 3, 2002 | 09:43 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro Z28
Engine: LS7
Transmission: M12/T56
Axle/Gears: 3.79
IN: My engine tomorrow
OUT: MY engine today

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Old Aug 4, 2002 | 10:48 AM
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Car: 91 Formula, 79 Trans Am, 72 LeMans
Engine: 305 TPI, 6.6, 350 Pontiac
Transmission: T5, 3 speed, TH350
"How do you do this"

Where the kickdown hooks up to your carb or TB, just pull the cable towards the front more so the cable is stiffer. Then just adjust it so it stays that length.
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Old Aug 6, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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Engine: slowtacular L03 305
Transmission: slushem 700r4
IN: T-tops that don't leak, skweek, or generally cause problems.
OUT: The same t-tops haveing the passengers side become a giant 20lb glass kite at 80mph and fly across two lanes of traffic.

IN:Scrap yards that sell t-tops for $60.
OUT:GM selling t-tops for $964 a top.
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Old Aug 7, 2002 | 09:37 AM
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Car: 92 RS - Fully Restored w/Custom Int
Engine: LO3 with some mods
Transmission: T-5
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Richmond
Originally posted by Jokerman
IN: T-tops that don't leak, skweek, or generally cause problems.
OUT: The same t-tops haveing the passengers side become a giant 20lb glass kite at 80mph and fly across two lanes of traffic.


True.
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 02:48 AM
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Engine: GM 350HO, 4.6 Overhead cam, 413 Wed
This one must be addressed...

IN-saying nitruous
OUT-saying nos

NOS is a brand name, as in N.O.S.
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Old Aug 8, 2002 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by Jokerman
IN: T-tops that don't leak, skweek, or generally cause problems.
OUT: The same t-tops haveing the passengers side become a giant 20lb glass kite at 80mph and fly across two lanes of traffic.

IN:Scrap yards that sell t-tops for $60.
OUT:GM selling t-tops for $964 a top.

I hate when the T-tops fly off esp when the windows are up it's like sudden decompression then the emergency hatch rips off an airplane.

R
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