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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 09:46 PM
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17.1 ?????

took my 91 rs 5spd to the track 2 days agoe and its best time was a 17.1... should it be faster? it was my first time ever at a track. i think i got a good start.

is this usual for a car with 109k on it?
can i drive?

all i have done to it is plugs cap wires and an open element paper filter.

i did beat a little riced out VW with that run though.
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 10:02 PM
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well in order for an accurate answer we'll need to know what kind of engine you have. if it's a 3.1 then it sounds about right.
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Old Apr 20, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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305 tbi
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Post all the numbers from your time slip. 60' 330' 1/8 mile etc.

What elevation is the track you ran at?

I'd say a stock 305 TBI 5 speed in good tune should run ~16.0-16.5 @ 83-86 mph.


First things are check the wires for correct order and connections, then timing.

Does the car seem to "pull" up to 4500-5000 rpm?
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 01:48 AM
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Damn thats slow, im guessin ur spinnin the **** outa that one legger and thats ur problem, shouldnt the 5 speed tbi be good for a high 15? Wish i took mine 2 the track when it was stock, sorry cant say.
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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That's about right if it's totally stock. I ran mine the first month I bought my car with 164K miles on it. That was the quickest time I pulled.

Now I have 186K on the ticker. I have a Jet Stage II chip (used $50), 180* T-stat, 185* fan switch, dual snorkel intake, K&N truck filter #1500 with a chrome truck air cleaner lid, Catco cat, Dynomax cat back (2-1/2"), B&M TransPak, and a PowerTrax locking diff.

I went to the strip 2 weekends ago and ran a 16.539 et @ 81.69 MPH. 100% traction. I wanted to adjust the timing, lock up the TC, and change back to the stock chip, to see what gains I could make, but they had bracket racing that day and all I got in was 2 runs in.

Overall I was pleased though. I know it's not a super quick time, but considering how many miles I have on the engine, and I haven't touched the engine at all (not even the TB), I was surprised to shave off over .5 second.

The most I spent money on was the PowerTrax for $340. Total of everything was $840. Soon I'm going to get Spohn's LCAs, Panhard rod, poly trans and torque arm mount, SFCs and changing to a 3.42 rear end. Once I get those things done I should shave off another 1/2 second (I hope).

I've been building a 350 for the car. It's not too far from being done. I'm trying to get everything in the CAR ready first before I drop it in. Later on I'll get the Spohn torque arm, poly motor mounts, front poly bushings, 2800 stall TC, etc., while I have the engine out. It'll be easier that way.
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 09:33 PM
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R/T 1.201
60' 2.614
1/8 mile 11.036 @ 64.60mph
1/4 mile 17.134 @ 78.69mph

oh ya and it is pulling through the torque band up to about 4200-4500rpm

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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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2.6 short time. dayum, you gotta be spinning the tire...........
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 10:51 PM
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Were you shifting at 4500 rpm? or something different?
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Old Apr 21, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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I shift around 4 grand no pull after that really.
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Old Apr 22, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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i was shifting at about 4200.
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Old Apr 23, 2003 | 01:33 AM
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work on that launch. If you can get that 60' down to a 2.4 (which is totally reasonable) you'll be doing much better. How do you launch the car exactly? What do you rev it to? How much clutch?
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 09:32 AM
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I know reaction time has nothing to do with ET's, but damn. You must have been admireing the bright green light. LOL.

j/k.

Oh yeah, thats about right for a completely stock 305 TBI.
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Old Apr 26, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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track times

hey guys finally got to get my bomb to the track.

my car had 145k on it when i ran it. the only mods that i had is a gutted cat and a k/n filter it a lo3 tbi auto car 88 SC

i made 4 passes on it track temps were in the 50's and it was just at dark.

pass 1 left lane pass 2 right lane

reaction 1.288 ---- 1.013
60ft 3.209 ---- 2.436
1/8 11.73 ---- 10.764
mph 65.417 ---- 66.007
spun like crazy ------- spun some not bad tho.
but still beat a honda


pass 3 right lane pass 4 right lane

reaction .840 ---- 1.078
60ft 2.328 ---- 2.460
1/8 10.61 ---- 10.81
mph 66.323 ---- 65.877

doing better with da tree -------- sleepin on da tree again

on the 3rd pass i tried to sling shot it be holding it @ 1k rpm and then go it worked


car was not quite as consistant as i thought it would be but the track condtion was bad the right lane was the best. and i had to roast the street tires like crazy

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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 11:16 AM
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back in 95 when my car was stock the best time I got was 15.54 at 91 mph I could rip 15.7 -15.8 all night long ( 92 rs 305 tbi 5 speed )
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 12:18 PM
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Car: '92 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 TBI
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I haven't been able to get to the track yet, but what do you guys figure my time should be with what all I have done to my car and if i get a good reaction time and all?
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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i think that 17.1 is high even for a 305 tbi. check all of your connections like mentioned earlier.
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Old Apr 27, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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I am guessing 15.9-16.1 range.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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Me 2 man 17 is hella slow, should be hi 15s low 16s max.
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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what can i do??? i did plugs cap and wires along with an open element filter? i do get the smell of gas once in a while coming from the car some place... any ideas?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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Did you plug that vacuum line when you put the open element on there? Also bumping your timging to 6-8* will help some. Maybe lowering your fuel pressure would help some, but that requires some modifications. Where do you live?
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Old Apr 28, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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im in a western 'berb of chicago. how do you recomend bumping the timing?

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Old Apr 29, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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Originally posted by fbodyandy
im in a western 'berb of chicago. how do you recomend bumping the timing?
Do a search for " timing" "adjusting" or "setting"
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