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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 11:10 AM
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Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
Big Problems!!!

Help!! My SES light stays on under 2500 RPM; My engine will start and then die immediately afterwards, but it will run after that; and I smell gas when I shut the car off. Any ideas on what the problem is? Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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fuel leak???
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 09:52 PM
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Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 LO3
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start by checking to see what code is setting the ses light. then let us know, and we can try to go from there
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:03 PM
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Yes, get the code and don't drive the car anywhere.

What was the most recent change done to the car before this happened?

Anything ingnition, fuel system or computer related?
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:41 PM
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Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
Another question

does anybody elses car idle anywhere near 600 RPM
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:44 PM
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Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
The last thing I did to it was take off the rear hood seal. No changes with the electronics though.
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 05:48 PM
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Make sure none of the vacuum lines got knocked loose.
The SES code will be the key to unravel the mystery
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Old Jun 28, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
I had a code 22 earlier. Could a bad TPS cause so many problems? I don't have access to any diagnostic tools utill August when school's back in session. Should I just have it worked on?
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 10:09 AM
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Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 LO3
Transmission: 700-R4
Re: Another question

Originally posted by darkhorse91
does anybody elses car idle anywhere near 600 RPM
yes, mine idles at 600-700 when in drive


Originally posted by darkhorse91
I had a code 22 earlier. Could a bad TPS cause so many problems?
yes your tps being bad or not being adjusted properly will cause the car to run like total crap. you could chase your tail for ever trying other things when all you need is a new and properly adjusted tps.
check to see if you are still getting code 22 if so get a new tps and a digital volt meter, get the new tps on and set properly and that should take care of your problem

BTW when my tps was bad it would only set the ses light off during certan rpm ranges also.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 04:13 PM
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make sure the plug didn't get knocked loose
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 08:20 PM
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From: Runnin' from the Reaper
Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
Thanks for all of the help. One more question though, how much does the TPS usually cost and what does it take to adjust it?

Thanks again
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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IIRC, it was like 35 for my s-10 for one of the newer style tps' amde by Borg/Warner. As for adjusting it, both the one on my camaro and the one on the truck are non-adjustable. I think the coding in the computer automatically establishes a 'zero' for the throttle position on each start up.
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Old Jun 29, 2003 | 10:42 PM
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They're pretty cheap
install is 2 torx screws if memory serves me

Last edited by James Montigny; Jun 30, 2003 at 11:51 AM.
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 09:20 AM
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From: South Texas, RGV
Car: 91 Camaro RS
Engine: 305 LO3
Transmission: 700-R4
on the LO3 in the 91 RS it is held in place by 2 torx screws.
the Borg/Warner tps is rather cheap(If memory serves me right I payed about $15) wile the factory tps is non adjustable the B/W replacement is adjustable and you have to set it.
you will have to use a jumper wire on wires B and C for the tps, connect wire B to the possitive on the digital volt meter and connect wire C to the negative. make sure you get it set between 0.54-0.56 tighten it down and recheck it to make sure it is still set right
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Old Jun 30, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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From: Runnin' from the Reaper
Car: 91 B4C/91 RS 305
Engine: L98 and L03
Transmission: 2xTH700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 LSD/2.73 Open
Many, many thanks to you guys. You don't know how much you've helped.
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