Which Roller Rocker to use with Powemax 2031 Cam?!?
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Which Roller Rocker to use with Powemax 2031 Cam?!?
Well guys im getting my cam installed soon, and i want to put new roller rockers on with it, besides the valve seals...
These are the cam specs, you guys decided on which I should use, 1.6, or 1.5 keep in mind im not changing the springs just the seals, and rockers...
208 Duration @ .050
214
264 Duration Int./Exh
270
112 Lobe Separation
( 3) 31 Open/Close @.050" Cam Lift Int./Exh.
44 (10)
.438 Gross Lift Int./Exh
.452
Im not going to change my springs cuz the engine only has 80k on it, but i need to do my valve seals, lol i know why do them and not the springs, cuz im a broke college kid who just bought his own condo, lol... So yea guys which should i use... 1.6, or 1.5.. I know im gonna have to do some prom tuning which is not a problem at all..
These are the cam specs, you guys decided on which I should use, 1.6, or 1.5 keep in mind im not changing the springs just the seals, and rockers...
208 Duration @ .050
214
264 Duration Int./Exh
270
112 Lobe Separation
( 3) 31 Open/Close @.050" Cam Lift Int./Exh.
44 (10)
.438 Gross Lift Int./Exh
.452
Im not going to change my springs cuz the engine only has 80k on it, but i need to do my valve seals, lol i know why do them and not the springs, cuz im a broke college kid who just bought his own condo, lol... So yea guys which should i use... 1.6, or 1.5.. I know im gonna have to do some prom tuning which is not a problem at all..
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If you're running stock heads still just go with the 1.5's the extra lift of the 1.6's won't give you much of anything over the 1.5's. Get full roller rockers too not just roller tip rockers and I would say definitely change out your springs. The last thing you want is to put an expensive new roller cam and roller rockers and then cheap out on some new valve springs that you could've gotten for like 40 bucks. Get new springs.
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If you guys knew what i got the cam for yous would freak!!! The deal with the cam was hey if u want it, just come pull it out of the motor.. So i got the cam for free... Yea guess I better just get new springs.. Any other sugesstions
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1.5's
if you are broke, then you won't want to be paying for screw in studs. and yes get valve springs.
if you are broke, then you won't want to be paying for screw in studs. and yes get valve springs.
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Are the cheap proform 1.5 full rollers any good to use??? And which springs should i use z28's?
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z28's would suffice, but I've heard the Proforms don't hold up well. I've heard stories of them breaking; you don't want that. Get some good ones maybe crane golds or something.
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i would suggest the comp pro-mags they are stainless steel, i would stay away from alum. if you plan on pro-longed street use.
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the crane steal rockers, i thought were for 86 and under... Part #s on all this would help out alot guys thanx
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I think you can get the pro magnums for our engines. Just make sure that they're self-aligning.
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wow all those rockers are expensive.. I didnt want to spend more then like 275$ tops on all the top end stuff...
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then get some good steel roller tiped stamped rockers, breaking a cheap rocker arm would not be alot of fun. you are better off getting something that is a not a full roller, but good quality, than a cheap roller rocker.
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Ok gotca. Would rather do a high quality roller tip, then expensive roller rocker... I guess I will just use springs from the 302 dz engine my work stocks them and there cheap, they should hold up, people rev them engines to like 7k, lol im lucky to get it to 5k.
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make sure you get a spring with the correct seat pressure for the cam. the cam manufacture will give you the recomended spring info.
when you are dealing witht he valvetrane, don't just buy parts that are on sale, you need to look into the system as a whole, and get the matching parts. your whole engine is only as strong as the weakest link.
when you are dealing witht he valvetrane, don't just buy parts that are on sale, you need to look into the system as a whole, and get the matching parts. your whole engine is only as strong as the weakest link.
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And Mr.Dewey YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK
!! LOL just kidding, wow this thing is going to be expensive, lol... DEWEY come to orlando and help, we can go see Mickey.
!! LOL just kidding, wow this thing is going to be expensive, lol... DEWEY come to orlando and help, we can go see Mickey. Supreme Member
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DEWEY come to orlando and help, we can go see Mickey.
DEWEY come to orlando and help, we can go see Mickey.
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Haha. I was looking at the comp cam steel roller tip rockers, could i do a 1.52/1.6 combo??? That would be kinda cool...
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that cam is a dual pattern, and already had higher exaust lift built in, so you wouldn't. basicly they build the benifits of it into your cam already. i would just get a standard set.
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ok so Dewey should i set up the guess room for ya, lol... Should be a breeze now to do the swap my waterpump just went today :-( its only a year old but thats what i get for getting a 10$ pump
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