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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Thermostat w/ headers

I know there was a heated debate over this a few months back, I just want a final answer. I'm all but done with my header swap and was wondering if i should run a cooler thermostat now. I was thinking 180*. Should i stay stock 195, go to 160, or get the 180? What are the reasons for doing any of them.

My thinking was i knock like there is no tomorrow, I'm hoping the new EGR valve thats comming and the exhaust leak that is taken care of will help remedy that. I also found out detonation can be attributed to cylinder heads being too hot, and thought a 15* cooler stat would help fix that.

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 09:59 PM
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What is your base timing at and what fuel do you run? A thermostat change shouldn't cause you problems. I run 180 without a hitch. I would only go lower if you burn your own proms.
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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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Everything is stock (well, was, i got the 2055's now). I just got a timing light so i'll start screwing with that this spring. I run 87, I've run up to 91 with no improvements on gas milage or knock counts. Dewey316 had a post where he explained how a bad EGR valve could cause detonation, i think that may have been the cause of my knock, and so its getting replaced.

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Old Mar 28, 2004 | 10:23 PM
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Originally posted by ssxmac
Everything is stock (well, was, i got the 2055's now). I just got a timing light so i'll start screwing with that this spring. I run 87, I've run up to 91 with no improvements on gas milage or knock counts. Dewey316 had a post where he explained how a bad EGR valve could cause detonation, i think that may have been the cause of my knock, and so its getting replaced.

-chuck
Well a bad valve will throw a code in most cases. I would vacuum cheak it to see if it opens and closes properly. I would defiinately check your base timing though.
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Old Mar 29, 2004 | 10:22 PM
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If you go to a 160 T-stat dont expect to pass emissions...

I found out the hard way.

your hydrocarbons will be through the roof!
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 12:25 AM
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so how you like them 2055's?
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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I had a 160 and then switched to the 180, the gas milage increased a tad and the heater worked so much better. 180 is probably the best for an L03, except during emissions time.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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I love my 160, especially in the middle of the summer when it gets really hot. Gotta love a cool engine


Oh btw, went through emissions today with a 170, and passed.


In case anyone was curious
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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my car passed with a 160 thermostat. with the mods below... all you have to do is make sure your collent temp is over 200 before you take it. i passed with flying colors once i did this with anctual working cat on.
i love my 160 but its not my primary driver anymore so i really think it depnds on how often you drive the car and in what conditions you drive the car.
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Old Mar 30, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by 25THRSS
so how you like them 2055's?
dunno yet, tell you after spring break (1 week).

No emmissions in MI, i dumped cat and AIR.

New EGR is on the way.

I'm getting into prom burning the next $200 i can come up with. What are the advantages of running under 180*?

-chuck
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