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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Knocking?

Hello I seem to have a problem I have noticed that in the past few days to me it seems that my valves are knocking the make a very horrible rattling sound when I am accelerating from a stop. It is a 1992 Camaro RS with thw LO3. What should I do?

William
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 11:56 PM
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Well knock is not your valves ratteling. I would start by checking your timing. If you are to advanced you can get some knock. Also a failing EGR or incomplete ignition can cause knock. What are your water temps?
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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When I llok at the gauage in my dash it appears to be normal.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:04 PM
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Not always, but sometimes a rattling sound can be a leak at the exhaust manifold. They don't have gaskets, so one loose or missing bolt can make a tick tick tick sound, if that's what you're hearing.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:15 PM
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I really don't see how because it only does it in the lower rpm band like from 750-1750rpm
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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take a peek at the oil pressure sounds like a spun rod bearing to me
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Originally posted by Dennis91RS
take a peek at the oil pressure sounds like a spun rod bearing to me
I doubt it. I would check your base timing. Lots of carbon depsoits can cause knock as well.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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Sure its not injector noise either? A lot of people mistake the ticking that our injectors make to be something bad.
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Old Apr 27, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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When I have my hood open and my car is idiling and I stand over it I do not hear a ticking noise or even knock, could it be like in the drivetrain or?

Thanks Again,
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 01:55 PM
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boy...... thatsounds like a rod knock to me. 305s around here, i know of 3 have done the same thing
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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I am having the same problem, but it's only at temps above N.O.T.(normal operating temp.)
I have retarded base timing to -2* before I retarded it, I had it at +1* to +2* and was getting almost 100 ping counts just accelerating 0-40 since, I have retarded the timing down to the -2* and it is fine until the motor is above normal temps. I know the difference between ping and rod/lifter/rocker/etc. knocking.

I have ran SeaFoam through it thinking that might help some carbon in the cylinders, but that doesn't seem to do anything, besided make smoke.

I modified the exhaust, and now the EGR no longer works. I don't know if I need more back pressure, or what, but it will throw a code 95% of the time I drive over 55mph.

I'd like to get this figured out, because I liked the 2nd gear scratches I was getting with the timing advanced 2*.

This is a completely stock motor besides the ehxhaust and open element. I can't believe the car is running lean, but the way my gas is used, I'm thinking it's running rich.

As soon as I find time, I'm going to run it on the laptop and see what sort of readings I am getting.

Anyone have any thoughts, or need any more info as to the situation? I'm sure this is pretty much the same problem that BADASS92 is having.
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Old Apr 28, 2004 | 02:34 PM
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other then telling you to check your timing (correctly with the plug disconnected, it should be 0*) theres not much we can tell you online.

i suggest you take it to someone who can look it over.. if it is a audible knock, you could severely damage the motor if you continue driving it.
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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 10:00 PM
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8 times out of 10 an engine will not knock at idle with a spun bearing it depends on how bad its spun. alls the knock is when its spun is the piston hittin the bottom of the head

a car with a spun bearing will start to knock at about 1500-2000 and get worse and louder as more rpms are given

when the old 305 in my car spun a bear it did not knock at idle it did exactly what i described

when the 307 in my oldsmobile spun a bearing it did the exact same thing.Then i took the motor out and dropped in a nice little 350

and again i had a 2.8 V6 Camaro that spun a bearing and it did the exact

KEEP IN MIND a car with a spun bearing will still hold oil pressure usually
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