Vacuum Compensation Fuel Regulator
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Vacuum Compensation Fuel Regulator
Bought a GM part #17113186 which is a vacuum compensation fuel regulator for my TBI 383. It boost the pressure up to 20 psi and then the vacuum brings it down to 15 psi at idle. Car runs a little rough and has black smoke out the tail pipe. Running rich I would guess. Is that other 1.5 psi enough to cause this? Can the regulator be made adjustable?
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That unit is adjustable. You have to break loose the torx screw in it and back it out a tad. Adjusting the pressure with the regulator is only really a stab in the dark. You really need to burn a new chip to get the proper fueling. The adjustable units just help you get things started. It is a crutch sorta.
be careful breaking the screw loose. i think it is loctite'd in or silver soldered or somethin. i dont think you can move the screw with a tork bit. anyway i could not. you may need to heat it with a torch. maybe someone can comment how to do it without stripping it. did not work for me but i got impatient and went to tuning with 90# injectors as it is a true bandaid solution..
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Originally posted by Ronny
be careful breaking the screw loose. i think it is loctite'd in or silver soldered or somethin. i dont think you can move the screw with a tork bit. anyway i could not. you may need to heat it with a torch. maybe someone can comment how to do it without stripping it. did not work for me but i got impatient and went to tuning with 90# injectors as it is a true bandaid solution..
be careful breaking the screw loose. i think it is loctite'd in or silver soldered or somethin. i dont think you can move the screw with a tork bit. anyway i could not. you may need to heat it with a torch. maybe someone can comment how to do it without stripping it. did not work for me but i got impatient and went to tuning with 90# injectors as it is a true bandaid solution..
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Running the Cop Car injectors from Turbo City along with their TBI and also their reprogramed chip. Scan tool showed me running a little lean so I thought I could richen it up a little with more fuel pressure. I think I over did it.
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The tee fitting I installed in the MAP Sensor line was leaking. Ran new vacuume lines and tee fitting and all is well. Though still want to make the regulator adjustable.
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Originally posted by rockinw
The tee fitting I installed in the MAP Sensor line was leaking. Ran new vacuume lines and tee fitting and all is well. Though still want to make the regulator adjustable.
The tee fitting I installed in the MAP Sensor line was leaking. Ran new vacuume lines and tee fitting and all is well. Though still want to make the regulator adjustable.
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Originally posted by rockinw
The tee fitting I installed in the MAP Sensor line was leaking. Ran new vacuume lines and tee fitting and all is well. Though still want to make the regulator adjustable.
The tee fitting I installed in the MAP Sensor line was leaking. Ran new vacuume lines and tee fitting and all is well. Though still want to make the regulator adjustable.
Break the tit from the center of the torx screw. Install the appropriate bit and apply a little heat with a propane torch and work the screw back and forth. I disassembled mine before heating so I wouldn't have to worry about damaging the diaphragm.
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Ok, Back to the parts house for a little torx bit. Under the hood again to look for another source of manifold vacuume to run the regulator.
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Originally posted by rockinw
Ok, Back to the parts house for a little torx bit. Under the hood again to look for another source of manifold vacuume to run the regulator.
Ok, Back to the parts house for a little torx bit. Under the hood again to look for another source of manifold vacuume to run the regulator.
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I am running a HO L69 Dual Snorkel Air Cleaner with no vac lines going to it. Where you show the thremac port is where my vacuum line goes to my charcoal canister. I guess the only other option is the EGR port if that is manifold vac, the thremac port is not.
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Originally posted by rockinw
Looked at your pic again, I only have the three ports on the front of my TBI not four like in your pic.
Looked at your pic again, I only have the three ports on the front of my TBI not four like in your pic.
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I can get a pic in the morning. I bought the TBI from CFM Tech. It only has the three ports which is all I needed till now.
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Originally posted by rockinw
I can get a pic in the morning. I bought the TBI from CFM Tech. It only has the three ports which is all I needed till now.
I can get a pic in the morning. I bought the TBI from CFM Tech. It only has the three ports which is all I needed till now.
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Originally posted by rockinw
Noi I sure do not. I can get that in the AM also. How do a send a pic?
Noi I sure do not. I can get that in the AM also. How do a send a pic?
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Rochester cast # is 17091058. There seems to be another port that has a plug in it. I ended up teeing off on the EGR valve. I tried to send a pic but it says the file is to big. It is just one pic.
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