fuel pressure reading question
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fuel pressure reading question
well i installed an electric fpg , phantom 5760 i think is the number, this is on a tbi with stock pump, it reads 14 psi with regulator all the way in , it never changes , full throttle , idle , drivin around , always 14 psi, is this cuz thats the stock pumps limit? i do have a 190 walbro , this took me all day , ill get around to droppin that in, just wondering if the gauge is working correctly
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From: saugerties new york
Car: 91 firebird,mint
Engine: 305 tbi,lots of work done
Transmission: 700-r4 built by level 10 in nj
Axle/Gears: 3.73, auburn , precision
2 more questions on the gauge ,it came with 2 little rubbers, one green , one red, im assuming they are for the bulb , seemed to me the bulb gets pretty hot, they wont melt? also, i have to key it twice to get it to reset, if i turn the car off it stays where it was reading , if i turn the key again it drops to zero, anyone know why?
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Car: 1991 Chevy Camaro
Engine: 305 TBI
Transmission: 700R4
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it reads 14 psi with regulator all the way in , it never changes , full throttle , idle , drivin around , always 14 psi, is this cuz thats the stock pumps limit?
it came with 2 little rubbers, one green , one red, im assuming they are for the bulb , seemed to me the bulb gets pretty hot, they wont melt?
also, i have to key it twice to get it to reset, if i turn the car off it stays where it was reading , if i turn the key again it drops to zero, anyone know why?
My Autometer tach does the exact same thing. It's perfectly normal. Autometer fully explains the answer (better than I can) in their FAQs, if your interested. It's listed under Tachometer FAQs, but it still applies to most Autometer gauges:
http://www.autometer.com/tech_faq_an...x?sid=3&qid=11
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well i might add i have a turbo city regulator, from what ive been able to gather , you can only adjust this particular regulator up to 15 psi?...........................really, it should be steady? i was doing some reading and saw where most run 16 psi at idle and 22 psi at wot...................maybe i need to be educated a bit more here
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Those pressures are for a built up engine with a VAFPR. My current engine is running 32 @ WOT and about 22-24 at idle but also has 4.3 injectors.
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mmmmm, ive done everything to the motor except bottom end,should i look into a different fpr? like these gm ones, is a vacuum adjustable one the way to go , or should i just leave it the way it is and i get what i get? i did notice a big difference from 12-14 psi........im wondering how much more performance i can get by playing with it
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You'll have to do some datalogging to see. No real good way of doing it without seeing where your at now. For WOT a wide band O2 sensor is the way to go. Their expensive but worth every last penny.
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From: saugerties new york
Car: 91 firebird,mint
Engine: 305 tbi,lots of work done
Transmission: 700-r4 built by level 10 in nj
Axle/Gears: 3.73, auburn , precision
well i put the walbro in, now i have just over 15 steady, is this fpr acting in theory like a pinched hose against the pump? can you explain to me why you have different readings at idle and wot and i dont? is it the vacuum? and i have no idea what dataloging is..........and i dont have a laptop.................id like to get more into this if its gong to make the car faster and not be too expensive, it sure is a big top end difference with the new pump , so thats a start i do have an msd heated 02 sensor, i dont think its wideband you speak of tho..........
VAFPR will give you more pressure as is vac referenced. dont think you want that. a steady 14 seems pretty good for TBI. i ran a VAFPR and it was a feeble attempt in getting around need for tuning. i chose to tune and run larger injectors instead of VAFPR. now if you tune and use a VAFPR that may be a diff story. one of the issues that developed is too much FP at WOT that needs to be regulated as well. can of worms.
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i see, so 15 is pretty good? like i said i have the turbo city fpr, i was reading if i changed the spring i could go a bit higher ? would it be worth the time and effort?
12 -13 is where GM sets it to best of my knowledge. the idea is to keep it at that pressure for all conditions especially WOT. having more FP is not necessarily better. i would set it to 13. but if at 14 currently give that a try. higher FP will enrichen your tune all over. puter thinks it is 12.
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