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Had a fire in my blazer today

Old Oct 7, 2006 | 09:43 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy silverado K5
Engine: 350 bored .030, crane cams hyd bluprint l-79 cam 447 lift 272 dur, camel hump heads port and polished 1.94 1.50, afterburner headers and y pipe, holley 670 cfm tbi, holley projection dual plane manifold, accel high pressure fuel pump, 3 inch exhaust
Transmission: 700 r4 with corvette servo and shift kit.
Had a fire in my blazer today

My tbi to air filter gasket lit up like a candle wick and was burning my k and n and about 10 secs after I put it out my tbi dumped a stream of fuel from both injectors... I got SOOO lucky.

Any ideas as to why this could happen? I have been trying to figure out why my injectors do that. About 30 secs after I shut the motor off I'll hear a gurguling (sp?) and then fuel will just dump out of the injectors. Also when a motor back fires through the tbi that means advanced right?


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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 12:52 PM
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it could mean either way.what is your timing set at right now?
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Old Oct 8, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy silverado K5
Engine: 350 bored .030, crane cams hyd bluprint l-79 cam 447 lift 272 dur, camel hump heads port and polished 1.94 1.50, afterburner headers and y pipe, holley 670 cfm tbi, holley projection dual plane manifold, accel high pressure fuel pump, 3 inch exhaust
Transmission: 700 r4 with corvette servo and shift kit.
6 degrees advanced as far as I know. Haven't checked it lately because usually I have no one to check it or keep the motor running while I do. Probably need to get button starter setup for just that.

But I am alot more concerned about my injectors literally streaming fuel into the motor after shut off. I hear a gurgling sound and then it just pisses fuel into the manifold... injectors are damn near brand new and the orings have no reason to be bad. I don't know if it does this during startup or while its running but I would assume so. Could this be bad wiring or ecm?

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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Well, I think you just figured out the reason they call them "blazers." Little extra fuel at the wrong time...... and you eventually get a real "blazer."

When you turn the key off those injectors should be closed. I can't imagine why they would not be unless there is something wrong with them or maybe some bizarre electrical gremlin causing them to open.
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Old Oct 9, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy silverado K5
Engine: 350 bored .030, crane cams hyd bluprint l-79 cam 447 lift 272 dur, camel hump heads port and polished 1.94 1.50, afterburner headers and y pipe, holley 670 cfm tbi, holley projection dual plane manifold, accel high pressure fuel pump, 3 inch exhaust
Transmission: 700 r4 with corvette servo and shift kit.
I just bought the injectors thinking my old ones were bad because of this same problem... and my "old" ones were a few months old. I'm completly stumped and nobody seems to have had this happen to them...
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Old Oct 10, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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Car: check
Engine: check
Transmission: check
Disconnect one of the injector connectors. Start the engine and let it run for a minute (probably need to work at keeping it running).

Shut engine off and observe injectors: do they both leak fuel? Or, just the one still connected to the ECM?

If both still leak fuel I would put a fuel pressure gauge on and repeat the test. While observing the fuel pressure.

If only the still connected injector leaks fuel I would suspect a bad ECM.


Another test: with the engine off, hot wire the fuel pump on. Usually there is a test lead to assist. Observe the injectors, any fuel at all and there is an issue.

Also a good time to check the fuel pressure. Should be between 9 & 13 psi if stock.

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Old Oct 12, 2006 | 11:02 PM
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Car: 1988 Chevy silverado K5
Engine: 350 bored .030, crane cams hyd bluprint l-79 cam 447 lift 272 dur, camel hump heads port and polished 1.94 1.50, afterburner headers and y pipe, holley 670 cfm tbi, holley projection dual plane manifold, accel high pressure fuel pump, 3 inch exhaust
Transmission: 700 r4 with corvette servo and shift kit.
Good advice... seems about par for the course. I'll give it a shot... hopefully no fires this time.
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