I want to get a Jet Stage 2 chip (and a 160 degree thermostat). Can it be removed for emmissions testing? Is it too much of a hassle?

Ethan

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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

Installing a computer chips take maybe 3 minutes. I have installtion instructions at the site below. No hassle at all.
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/mod4.html

And here is how to put ur thermostat in.
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/mod3.html

Vice Versa to take it out the aftermarket stuff and put back the stock stuff when u get ur car checked out.

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited December 05, 2000).]

 

Thanks!

 

Hey Ethan, u from Michigan too? Thats sweet man, I am from the Flint area. What kind of ride do u have? Mine is in the sig. Maybe we could meet up in the spring time and cruise, there is another guy on here from Michigan that has a 327 TBI. His name is Duke and he is pretty cool. We could all meet up someday with others sometime?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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The stage 2 chip is legal in California, so you can be sure it's legal everywhere else.

 

Yeah, I'm about a half an hour from downtown Detroit. More like a suburban area. Look in my sig. for info on my car. We could meet up in the spring. Not a bad idea. Do u autocross, or anything like that?

Ethan


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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

No, I heard of autocross though and it sounds like fun. Have u ever been to any cruises before in Michigan?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
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For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

No, I haven't been on any cruises yet. Just got the car a couple months ago. I'm going for autocross this spring.

Ethan

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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

guys how much faster,or how much more power (if n e ) would this mod bring? I wanted to do it just for the simple fact of getting rid of the speed limiter.

 

remove the speedlimiter = asking for trouble.

 

Howcome?




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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

Because Nic's scared to go fast. Not like us, born speedsters. Michiganders! I will take u to a cruise in the spring. A flint cruise. You will like..... Hope u know how to drive fast, cause when the cops come during the drag races its an all out get away! Its lots of fun. People race for money and there is always some sucka with a V6 down there or another 305 TBI or TPI that thinks he can dust my 305 TBI when I tell them it only has an exaust. You'll have fun. 12, 11 and 10 second rides all drag racin for money. We can go to this autocross thing too. It looks like fun and legal I am guessing? What do u do at autocross? Run around cones and stuff?

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited December 06, 2000).]

 

Hey Ethan, have u ever been to Woodward Cruise? U know, in Detroit, the biggest cruise in the US? U want to get a little something goin on next year with a bunch of us thirdgens? Get Duke and a bunch of others to meet down there in some parking lot? Got a couple guys from NY that want to come too. I had a blast this year when I went. Went down with a 98 YZ R6 and a 00 RC51 1000R and a old 12 sec GS and of course my bird. I never seen so many muscle cars and sports cars in my entire life at one time! We went to Royal Oak afterwards and there were chicks everywhere on the Royal Oak strip and a huge aray of exotic superbikes. Temp was low 70's, had the t-tops off, perfect night.

What do u say? Think u would want to hook up with a bunch of us next summer to cruise together at Woodward? That would be a blast!

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

[This message has been edited by 91Bird305 (edited December 06, 2000).]

 

Yeah, it would be. We can hook up once the weather will get better. In spring or something. I wouldn't mind drag racing either. By that time, my car will be ready too. Autocross is legal, just like u described. I can't wait now!

Ethan


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'88 T/A
305 TBI with WC-T5
50,000 miles
Flowmaster 3" exhaust
14" K&N Open Element

 

just a note to all:

i aint scared to go fast.

 

Reply to the question: No it's not legal unless the company says it's not legal in all 50 states.
JFYI- Obviously you're not scared to go fast...you have a camaro do you not?!!

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, Jon (91 RS too many mods to list)

 

Camaro's can go fast....But Birds can FLY!

Ok Ethan, I guess around spring time look for a thread on here about meeting up. I still have to talk to Duke, he hangs out at a Michigan fbody messageboard. Its pretty cool over there. A lot of 4th gen cars but there is a handful of 3rdgenners. We organize Michigan gatherings. Sometimes at drag strips, sometimes bars and most of the time at Hooters.

http://web.camaross.com/cgi-bin/foru...=10&LastLogin=

The link is long, but thats the one. Come visit ur fellow Michiganders sometime.

 

"camaros are fast but birds can fly" i really like that one eric

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1989 pontiac firebird
bright red exterior(just repainted)
grey interior
5 spd
305 TBI (stock)
WS.6 formula wheels
3.73 posi rear end
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system: 2 10" MTX thunder 2000 in a Professionally done custom bandpass box.
Blaupunkt CD player
Blaupunkt 4x6 and 6x9
600 watt rockford fosgate 4.6 amp

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I talked to jet they said you should get 16-18 horsepower form it and i would order straight form jet because they said you have to ask them or tell them to note that you want the speed limiter removed.

 

I would really like to see someone get 15-18 hp on a non-custom chip. They claim its to the rear-wheel too. I don't care, anything is better than this hypertech chip I have now. Yeah, it works ok, but it could be better. I am not to upset. Only paid 40 bucks for it from Shane Buss about 2 years ago.

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI (ZZ5 summer of "01")
ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

If you run a 160 operating temp., gets real hard to pass the test.
Most chips are for off road use because of this, at 160 you're still kinda in a choke mode, even thou closed loop.
There is no performance advantage of a 160 as compared to a PROPERLY tuned engine at 195.

 

whats this "camaros are fast but birds can fly" crap.
How many parts on our cars are shared???
SHEEEIT, BEEEATCH. WE BE RACIN SUMDAY.

 

You heard me BEEEATCH!!
Camaros=Dime a Dozen
Firebird=A Rare type of Bird

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Eric Natzke
91 Firebird 305 TBI

ASCD Ram Air Hood-3" custom exaust-Flowmaster 80 Series-No Cat-Edelbrock TES Headers (coated)-March Pulleys-TBI Spacer-K&N Open ELement-TransGo Shift Kit-B&M Supercooler 28,000 GVW-Hypertech Thermomaster-160 Stat-3:42 GM Gears-Auburn Posi Unit-Edlebrock Strut Tower Brace-MSD Superconducters-MSD Cap & Rotor-MSD Blaster Coil-Rapidfire Plugs-265/50/R15 Tires-Emmison's all Gone
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/91firebird.html
For info on certain parts or mods go to the site below
http://members.aol.com/j007golden/modeval.html

 

Camaros=Dime a Dozen
Firebird=A Rare type of Bird


i heard that!

 

ok, enough. they are the same car.
TECH