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Old Jul 16, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Open air element question....

I would have done some research but once again the search is down for me....I want to replace my stock intake and put in an open air element but I don't know much about it. Does it bolt right on or does it require messing around or buying new parts?

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Old Jul 19, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tbi/...n-element.html
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Thanks!! That thread help alot. But after reading it I'm alittle afirad I'll end up burning the wires to. So if I plug the IAT wire back in does this prevent it from being burnt or is it still at wrisk?? What have some people done to make sure the wires are not at harm??

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:09 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Just get a flat base, not a drop base. Remove the gold "ring" around the throttle body, then put the new stuff on. That "ring" really hampers airflow into the throttle body anyway. You may need to make your own stud, but thats easy, just go to Home Depot and buy a 12" long stud with the same threads, bend it like the factory stud, cut it to length.

A flat base will not be anywhere close to the wires you are worried about, and it allows you to remove that ring.

Don't forget to drill a hole for the sensor and cap the vacume line that controlled the thermac device.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Is that ring easy to take off or do i have to cut it off? and what do you mean by stud?

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

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Is that ring easy to take off or do i have to cut it off? and what do you mean by stud?

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The gold ring slips off and the stud is the threaded shaft that the wing nut screws onto holding the air cleaner lid down.
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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Ii dont understand why I would have to get a new stud. I just want to make sure I know what I'm getting myself into before I destroy things ha

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Old Jul 20, 2007 | 11:06 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

You won't be destroying anything, you'll be able to put the factory stuff back on it, if for some reason you needed to.

You'll need the stud because the open element is taller than the factory lid, so you need a longer stud. If you don't wanna deal with bending a new stud, then get the drop base.

There are plenty of resources here on TGO, photo's threads, this has been covered a million times. Don't be afraid to spend some time and look around. The search feature here is an invaluable tool.
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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:16 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

I see. I don't mind doing the extra work trying to bend the stud after all I want to make sure my wires are safe. Is it possible for me to bend the stud using common tools or does it have to be done a specific way and if so which way would that be?

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Old Jul 21, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Damn man, I didn't realize this was that hard. Bend the stud by whatever method you are comfortable with.

Here's what I did:

I used the factory stud as a template for the bends
-put the new stud into a vice,
-heat the stud and bend it to match the factory stud,
-install everything on to the car,
-cut the stud so it is about level with the wingnut.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Re: Open air element question....

Ha Thanks alot but I'm not to sure dad will let me lite things on fire
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

bro....ur making like the easyest thing ever sound like ur going 2 have to fabricate your own car..... i went 2 canadian tire, baught the edelbrock elete open air cleaner, its a drop base i think... took er home, tool off the old 1, plopped in the bottom plate, looked 2 c if it hit the wires, i didnt, but i was worried 2, marked it, took it off, slapped sum electrical tape for added insurance...no 1 can see it so dont worry its on the bottom, punched out the hole for the lil sencer thing i forget what its called, plugged the 1 tube they say 2 , and put the air filter n cap on, look at the "stud" which isnt that complicated, the thing that the wing nut goes on 2 hold down the lid,. and seen how much room i had 2 the top, tthen went out and baught a 3 inch k&n air filter, and had clearenc to boot on the stud, i got a 92 vert berd, i ddint wanna make a new stud, cuz i knew if the lid fit on and i could get the bolt on, the hood would close for sure. anyway, dont be scared, dont do a hack job, be carful, open ur eyes, and get that damn thing on there
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 08:13 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Your right your right I've just been having second thoughts lately due to the fact I have found this bonnet type thing with a four inch opening that i could put a cone filter to. I like this because it won't let the hot air in like the open filter does but I still have some questions about that before i make the decision. Thanks a lot for all the help guys I greatly appreciate it.
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Old Jul 26, 2007 | 10:31 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

I just put one on 2 days ago. I bought an edelbrock open element and K&N Filter from Oreillys. All you really have to do is cut out the spot for the Air Charge Sensor (A.K.A IAC),insert it, put the Air Cleaner on your tbi, Check the clearance of the wires, and then put on the wingnut. The only problem I had was when I went to put on the lid it was pretty much flush with the top of the stud so I had to push down on the lid to get enough thread to start the wingnut.
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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

If I put in a 14x3 is there a chance it will fit or do most people use a 14x2?

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Old Jul 30, 2007 | 10:57 PM
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I have a flat base 14" x 3" and it just fits. Most other people I seen use 14" x 3", but I have seen 1 or 2 14" x 2", I don't like they way it looks.
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Old Jul 31, 2007 | 12:30 PM
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Re: Open air element question....

Neither do I. I'm going to run out either today or tomorrow to get one. Thanks for all the help guys.
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