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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 10:28 AM
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G-Tech RR

http://www.gtechprostore.com/cgi-bin...ion&key=020230

Any one with any experience with this and the l03? Is it worth the 300$?
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:15 PM
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Re: G-Tech RR

the only thing i found that good for was comparing the difference when i added a performance part to my car. otherwise it wasnt too accurate although maybe my setting were off.
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Well if it works on like a lot of newer and older cars, then that sounds to be pretty handy to have.

I know this question has been asked somewhere before. But how can I read like error codes and stuff? [im too lazy to search right now]
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Old Feb 1, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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Oooorrrrr, you can buy the EBL to do the same thing and tune your car at the same time.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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Mind linking to the EBL?
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 11:51 AM
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Re: G-Tech RR

I was curious as was well, but G-Tech website is rather sparse on technical details about their product. However, from what I was to see it appears that RR super duper monitor is based on a three-axis accelerometer. Three-axis accelerometer, for consumer market, are typically solid state devices (MEMS, piezoresistive, CMOS, and other technologies are used) and can be had for very little money. Depending on accuracy required the price varies accordingly. Therefore, it is g meter that monitors acceleration and engine RPM. By entering car's weight (mass) Force - aka HP can be back calculated from observed data (recall F=m*a). With RPM data available Torque can be calculated as well. Newtonian physics still works in 21st century.

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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Re: G-Tech RR

www.dynamicefi.com. Or find Rbob in the DYI tuning forums. He's the one who makes the EBL.
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Old Feb 2, 2008 | 12:52 PM
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Re: G-Tech RR

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www.dynamicefi.com. Or find Rbob in the DYI tuning forums. He's the one who makes the EBL.
So it does everything the G-Tech does, plus I can tune my car? Im sold, lol.
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I was curious as was well, but G-Tech website is rather sparse on technical details about their product. However, from what I was to see it appears that RR super duper monitor is based on a three-axis accelerometer. Three-axis accelerometer, for consumer market, are typically solid state devices (MEMS, piezoresistive, CMOS, and other technologies are used) and can be had for very little money. Depending on accuracy required the price varies accordingly. Therefore, it is g meter that monitors acceleration and engine RPM. By entering car's weight (mass) Force - aka HP can be back calculated from observed data (recall F=m*a). With RPM data available Torque can be calculated as well. Newtonian physics still works in 21st century.

//RF
So it basically uses math equations to calculate everything? Guess thats why people say its a little off.

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Re: G-Tech RR

Originally Posted by Timothayyy
So it does everything the G-Tech does, plus I can tune my car? Im sold, lol.
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So it basically uses math equations to calculate everything? Guess thats why people say its a little off.
i wouldn't say that, math and physics can't lie, thing is just like desk top dyno it's only as good as the user entering the information.....

in other words if you guess your car is 3,200 lbs like a bunch of people say theres are on here and you actually have a fully loaded 3,800 lb car then sure your times will be off a few tenths and hp will be off too of course.

remember all a dynamometer is, a program that basically does the same thing just using a bit different math.
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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 01:09 PM
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Re: G-Tech RR

Provided you have the correct speedo gears for your rear, and you dont have a cable driven VSS, the EBL equipped ECM is pretty good for datalogging vehicle speed, 0-60 times, and other info. Power is a little harder as the VSS isnt quite accurate enough to give a smooth acceleration curve. Even the later model ones with magnetic pickups fluctuate enough to make it inaccurate.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 04:35 PM
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Re: G-Tech RR

Originally Posted by dimented24x7
Provided you have the correct speedo gears for your rear, and you dont have a cable driven VSS, the EBL equipped ECM is pretty good for datalogging vehicle speed, 0-60 times, and other info. Power is a little harder as the VSS isnt quite accurate enough to give a smooth acceleration curve. Even the later model ones with magnetic pickups fluctuate enough to make it inaccurate.
Ill keep that in mind, but as is, it looks like the best option since it can tune my car and stuff too. How do I find out what gears I have in the rear? Cant you tell what options my car has by that sticker on the door? If you can Ill take a pic and start a new thread to see what my car came with from the factory.
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i wouldn't say that, math and physics can't lie, thing is just like desk top dyno it's only as good as the user entering the information.....

in other words if you guess your car is 3,200 lbs like a bunch of people say theres are on here and you actually have a fully loaded 3,800 lb car then sure your times will be off a few tenths and hp will be off too of course.

remember all a dynamometer is, a program that basically does the same thing just using a bit different math.
My cars got power everything, so I bet its on the "fat" side, lol.

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