Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
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Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
After installing a new stock TPI fuel pump I set FP to 21psi, the fuel pressure drops under load. What can cause this.
Any help is appreciated.
Any help is appreciated.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
Either the new pump isn't up to snuff, or if you have a slight leak on the rubber connector to the pump, then it can loose pressure also. Was it a brand new pump, or used one?
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
Pump is brand new ACD#EP241 from TPI parts.
I was certain that TPI pumps were made for 40+psi?
Im going to check for leaks, lower psi and see what happens.
I also hear the pump, is that normal? I never heard the TBI pump.
I was certain that TPI pumps were made for 40+psi?
Im going to check for leaks, lower psi and see what happens.
I also hear the pump, is that normal? I never heard the TBI pump.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
hmm, is it dropping pressure just at WOT, and high RPM, or when is it dropping pressure, and how much is it dropping?
Hearing it is normal, I have heard every pump I have had in my car.
Hearing it is normal, I have heard every pump I have had in my car.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
Id did the first cheks in P by opening the trottle quickly and it dropped 0.5-1psi
Today with 18psi the needle did just move a little. I endet up setting to 16psi and fixed the gauge to the wiper wile dataloging and it never moved even by WOT.
I used a Actron gauge of ebay and I have now some doubts about its readings, although seems a little exagerated if it would be 22 psi off wenn indicating 21psi. Im going to werify with another gauge.
Today with 18psi the needle did just move a little. I endet up setting to 16psi and fixed the gauge to the wiper wile dataloging and it never moved even by WOT.
I used a Actron gauge of ebay and I have now some doubts about its readings, although seems a little exagerated if it would be 22 psi off wenn indicating 21psi. Im going to werify with another gauge.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
What spring are you using? If going as high as 21psi stacked the coils that would explain the fluctuation, and would be a nice explanation for you because then it wouldn't point to your pump being too weak.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
It is shorter but stiffer as stock one.
It came with xtremefi's stock modified AFPR and I dont know what psi range since his statements are mostli bs.
The lowest possible is 13 psi an the highest in the modified FPR 21psi.
Good point Bron! I hope so much its the gauge or the spring.
Were can I finde a spring that isent maxed out at 20psi?
It came with xtremefi's stock modified AFPR and I dont know what psi range since his statements are mostli bs.
The lowest possible is 13 psi an the highest in the modified FPR 21psi.
Good point Bron! I hope so much its the gauge or the spring.
Were can I finde a spring that isent maxed out at 20psi?
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
When I went from a TBI to a TPI pump it was significantly louder. Sounds like the pump you can hear coming from newer GM trucks and SUVs.
Have you replaced the fuel filter lately?
Have you replaced the fuel filter lately?
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
My Walbro 190 was noticeably louder. I wonder how many TBI's drop pressure since there is not a cheap way to monitor it while actually under load.Except for what you've done.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
Mine never actualy dropped pressure, the poor pump just gave up the ghost. )
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
My guess is 12 lbs to 20 lbs? My Aeromotive spring is like 10 lbs to 20 lbs. I have it on 19 lbs today. Aeromotive also offers a different 20-40 lb spring with reg.
Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
in GM high pressure TBI Truck(1995-1996) they run 26-32 lbs I hear so that spring may be 22 lbs to 40 lbs. I sold a GM regulator and spring(orange color) to Liquid 8 that came with my 1995 TBI unit. You could tell it was obviously stiffer.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
DM, I am running a TDS spring, and have mine set at 24psi right now, it does it with no issues.
I had "heard" that TDS has changed their spring since I got mine. I used to have a spare spring around here somewhere, I have no idea where it is at though, since I moved last year, let me look around and see if I can't find it for you.
I had "heard" that TDS has changed their spring since I got mine. I used to have a spare spring around here somewhere, I have no idea where it is at though, since I moved last year, let me look around and see if I can't find it for you.
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
DM, I am running a TDS spring, and have mine set at 24psi right now, it does it with no issues.
I had "heard" that TDS has changed their spring since I got mine. I used to have a spare spring around here somewhere, I have no idea where it is at though, since I moved last year, let me look around and see if I can't find it for you.
I had "heard" that TDS has changed their spring since I got mine. I used to have a spare spring around here somewhere, I have no idea where it is at though, since I moved last year, let me look around and see if I can't find it for you.
Thanks,
I would love to get my FP up to 24. Downside is retuning for the new FP. Oh well, ya gotta do what ya gotta do............
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Re: Help! fuel pressure dropping under load
Thanks to eweryone.
It was extremfi's wrongly rated AFPR sring that wasent stiff anough to hold over 18psi.
Im running 21psi FP since a wile now with AFPR and Top Down Solutions 20psi VAFPR sring is working excellently.
It was extremfi's wrongly rated AFPR sring that wasent stiff anough to hold over 18psi.
Im running 21psi FP since a wile now with AFPR and Top Down Solutions 20psi VAFPR sring is working excellently.
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