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UPDATE: I talked with the foundry today and they looked over the tooling. At least they were receptive to doing the test pour, but at what price? I dropped the tooling off with them and agreed to do three test pours with a follow on of 10 units if everything like the machining to include the price was good. So, I will have three units for sale if the pours go OK, but that would still be at least three to four weeks out. The foundry is supposed to call me tomorrow with a quote and hoping that they don't get stupid on the pricing. More as this evolves, but at least it so far it looks promising and going in the right direction.
Called my machinist today as well and had a chat about a game plan for the machining and some changes I wanted to make to the manifold. He said when the pours are ready we can discuss what changes he thinks need to be made as well to produce a quality unit. He did laugh a little and said... "this isn't Eddy Motorsports and I don't let junk go out the door"! So, everyone that is interested, hang on a bit more and we'll see how this pans out. I'm going as fast as possible and want everything right the first time on this project.
If anyone has information on the AC bracket (hole/position) that was talked about earlier, PM me and I'll see what needs to be done if possible. During the machining process is when this will need to happen, thanks.
If anyone has information on the AC bracket (hole/position) that was talked about earlier, PM me and I'll see what needs to be done if possible. During the machining process is when this will need to happen, thanks.
its on a stock 83 firebird manifold
Last edited by KITT1983; May 10, 2020 at 04:00 PM.
UPDATE: The local Arizona foundry was a bust because they wanted way too much per unit to pour. I'm waiting to hear back from another foundry that sounded much better on pricing, but we shall see.
UPDATE: The local Arizona foundry was a bust because they wanted way too much per unit to pour. I'm waiting to hear back from another foundry that sounded much better on pricing, but we shall see.
I wonder what Edelbrock would charge to pour them? I believe they did many of the Marine Vortec manifolds as well as the Scoggin Dickey TPI Vortec base.
I tried Edelbrock years ago and we almost got them to pour it, but at the last minute they backed out sayin' it was too complex and time consuming for them to pour. I guess I could call them again and see if they will do it this time and maybe machine it as well.
Last edited by Buccaneer; May 16, 2020 at 01:53 AM.
UPDATE: I have contacted several foundries to include Edelbrock. Waiting on two of them to give me quotes. Also, I'm taking a road trip out of state with the tooling to have a foundry take a look at it and see if I can do some pours. I will have more on this as it develops.
UPDATE: I have contacted several foundries to include Edelbrock. Waiting on two of them to give me quotes. Also, I'm taking a road trip out of state with the tooling to have a foundry take a look at it and see if I can do some pours. I will have more on this as it develops.
You can, do you need it back? All in good time. I have to be able to pour them first before I can machine anything. I have found nothing on the bracket you speak of and I also contacted rBob on this forum about that to see if he could shed some light on that, no joy either. I have the GM manual on the 83 firebird and the 82 camaro. I saw nothing on the bracket or placement in either manual. The 82 and 84 corvette is different.
You can, do you need it back? All in good time. I have to be able to pour them first before I can machine anything. I have found nothing on the bracket you speak of and I also contacted rBob on this forum about that to see if he could shed some light on that, no joy either. I have the GM manual on the 83 firebird and the 82 camaro. I saw nothing on the bracket or placement in either manual. The 82 and 84 corvette is different.
UPDATE: I have contacted several foundries to include Edelbrock. Waiting on two of them to give me quotes. Also, I'm taking a road trip out of state with the tooling to have a foundry take a look at it and see if I can do some pours. I will have more on this as it develops.
hows the foundries going ?
Last edited by KITT1983; Dec 30, 2021 at 07:31 AM.
UPDATE:
There has been some renewed interest in the Renegade. I have received mail from a company and have also talked with them and they are interested in the Renegade manifold. I have no idea where this is going at the moment, if anywhere, but the interest is definitely out there. Maybe the Renegade will be once again produced by a "Quality" company that can actually machine a good product. If anything happens, I will post up the outcome either way.
Any new information on the Renegade intake? I saw the pictures of the core boxes. Doesn't look that complicated. Do you have any more pictures? I have worked in foundries most of my life. I might be able
to shake a few bushes to see if anyone near me is interested in pouring/machining this.
All I heard was crickets after our last conversation with this last company. 84/94vette, PM sent.
Safe to assume after this long, no chance I could get in on any action huh? 😢😢
I've waited 32 years to get my 83 z28 cfi vert to be handed to me and im afraid its too late now to get good parts. I got it started after 20 yesrs of sitting in my dads garage and it ant to take it to her former glory.
Safe to assume after this long, no chance I could get in on any action huh? 😢😢
I've waited 32 years to get my 83 z28 cfi vert to be handed to me and im afraid its too late now to get good parts. I got it started after 20 yesrs of sitting in my dads garage and it ant to take it to her former glory.
If you are the person who sent me mail to my company address, I did answer that mail already. If not, let me know, PM me.
I guess now would be a good time for an UPDATE on the Renegade project. I have had MANY talks again with the local foundry here in Arizona that poured the original castings way back when it started. We came to an agreement on price per unit, but I may be able to get it a little lower, who knows. I have to do at least five test pours or first articles as a foundry calls it. These pours are for quality and pours issues. If that works out, then the machinist that I have been talking with will start the machining phase and since I lost ALL my previous machining tooling fixtures and G-code, I have to start from scratch again. This process may take a little bit, not sure on a time frame and I'm not going to rush it and then have a huge mess on my hands once again. To complicate things, I was in the hospital recently with serious issues and came close to dying. That issue kicked my bodies *** and I'm still recovering from that and still not 100%.
Unfortunately all this has been a very slow process, much slower than I would like, but that's the reality of a project this large, lots of things to consider and to get right this time around. I just thought I would give you all some info on this. Have a great weekend.
It was me that sent the email yea lol. I'm just now realizing you are the same guy lmao tysm for the quick reply. New to the forum so that's an awesome thing your doing!
also thank you for the update! Glad your still around after whatever you were facing. good luck with everytning going on!
I'm so glad to hear you're making progress with another possible run from what your saying on the xfire blog! Awesome to see your health is staying on the up and up too! I'm all excited now!! Good luck!!!
