Need answer before morning- TBI motor cranks but wont start
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Need answer before morning- TBI motor cranks but wont start
This isn't for the camaro, it's for my truck- 89 ck1500 350 TBI. Has 203000 miles on it. I went for a beer run and came back minus one vehicle. It's still at the store. It cranks, has spark at the coil, and I checked all the fuses. Now, it is raining outside, and it was running fine when I parked it. Do you think something got wet that's related to the fuel pump? How do I check? I need to move the truck in the morning, so I need to know if I should take it to a shop or to take it home and screw with it. I'm thinking 202k is alot for a pump. Thanks for the help
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Since you already know it has spark, the next logical thing to do would be to check to see if its getting fuel. Loosen the fuel line and have someone turn the key while you hold a container at the end of the line. If you have an adequate amount of gas pouring out the end of the line, your problem is not the fuel pump.
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no fuel at all coming from injectors, but I guess i'll take the fuel line off in the morning to check, thanks.
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would no fuel coming from the line mean it's definetly the fuel pump or could it mean there's some fuse or something that might be blown? Like I said, I checked all the fuses in the fuse block.
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If no fuel is coming out of the line, it simply means the fuel pump is not working. That could be due to a bad pump, or it could not be getting current. Try checking to see if the pump is getting current. If it is, I can't think of any other possibility other than it being a faulty fuel pump. If its not getting current, then you have an electrical problem elsewhere. By the way....there is a connector that holds a fuse bolted onto the sheet metal on the passenger side of my car by the battery. I am not completely sure what it does, but I had someone tell me it was for the fuel pump. Good luck.
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There is a black plastic cover on the firewall that covers the junction block,fuel pump relay and F/P fuse. Chances are the pump went but, don't worry it is alot easier to change than a Thirdgen pump.
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I checked the fuse behind the cover, it's good. I got the truck towed home where I pulled down the tank. I kept the fuel hoses connected because I didn't have clearance while it was in position. I also wasn't able to siphon the gas out of the tank- so imagine bench pressing half a tank of regular, while you're laying in a stream of rain water. Things got real complicated when I looked at how the fuel hoses are connected. I don't think I can get to them without breaking the steel fittings. I put the tank back in and turned the key and it started. It was good all day but wouldn't start later that night, so I kicked the tank and it worked again. So this defiently sounds like it needs a pump, but how do I get the gas out of the tank so its easier to move around? If the pump works then obviously I can unhook the outgoing fuel hose and pump it out, but lets assume kicking the tank doesn't make it turn on anymore. Thanks alot
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Siphon it out the filler hose.
You could get you a siphon pump from a boat shop.
They just connect to a drill and a hose goes in the filler and another into a barrel. Or if you have a few good friends over for beers just take the bed off.
You could get you a siphon pump from a boat shop.
They just connect to a drill and a hose goes in the filler and another into a barrel. Or if you have a few good friends over for beers just take the bed off.
I helped a friend change the pump on an '88 1500, and we unplugged the pump harness, took the filler and vent hoses off at the tank and removed the ground wire from the frame. After we
took off the mounting straps we lowered it with a floor jack and
swiveled it a half turn at the fuel and vent hoses. This got the
tank in a position that we could remove the pump from. Yes, the
tank was half full of gas. Aren't they always??
took off the mounting straps we lowered it with a floor jack and
swiveled it a half turn at the fuel and vent hoses. This got the
tank in a position that we could remove the pump from. Yes, the
tank was half full of gas. Aren't they always??
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yes, fuel pumps do have a tendency to qit, just when you fill the car full of fuel.
if you rap the bottom of the tank sometimes, the fuel pump will work. this happened on mom's caravan 2 years ago.
luckily it isn't on your thirdgen, though.
if you rap the bottom of the tank sometimes, the fuel pump will work. this happened on mom's caravan 2 years ago.
luckily it isn't on your thirdgen, though.
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Yeah from what I hear thirdgen tanks are a pain.
The top of the tank sits only about three inches below the bottom of the bed, so I couldn't fit my hands, let alone any tools, near where they'd need to be.
Nordbert, how'd you do that?
I've been driving it with no more than an eighth of a tank so when it craps out on me and I find myself doing it again I won't kill myself- learned my lesson the first time (shoulders still sore). It sounds so easy in theory.
The top of the tank sits only about three inches below the bottom of the bed, so I couldn't fit my hands, let alone any tools, near where they'd need to be.
Nordbert, how'd you do that?
I've been driving it with no more than an eighth of a tank so when it craps out on me and I find myself doing it again I won't kill myself- learned my lesson the first time (shoulders still sore). It sounds so easy in theory.
It's been a few months since we changed the fuel pump on that
pickup, but I don't understand why the distance from the top of the tank and the bottom of the bed could be a problem. The thing that annoyed me was that the fuel pump harness came from the
passenger's side of the frame and the fuel lines and ground wire
came from the driver's side. And the spot GM chose to screw the
ground wire to sucked, too! It only took about an hour to change, so it could have been worse.
pickup, but I don't understand why the distance from the top of the tank and the bottom of the bed could be a problem. The thing that annoyed me was that the fuel pump harness came from the
passenger's side of the frame and the fuel lines and ground wire
came from the driver's side. And the spot GM chose to screw the
ground wire to sucked, too! It only took about an hour to change, so it could have been worse.
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are you sure the connections to the pump just arnt loose/corroded? i mean if kicking the pump makes it work thats what it sounds like to me.. might wanna check those out first.. good luck
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