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Old Nov 17, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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Yesterday i was drive to homecoming (school thingy) and the weirdest thing happens everytime i hit the exxelerator really hard it would make a really weird geear grinding typing sound which i tought was my trannie dont ask y im just weird like taht so anywayz i go down to the main place mall to get pictuers takin and when we left my car wouldnt start!! It made a clicking sound and wouldnt turn over, needs new starter right? but this is where it gets weird i get my friend to drive me back up to go get my car fixed and swich out my starter when i try to start the car (just for the hell of it) and it started right up! like nothing happened and its still working!!! just like nothing happened and its scarring the sh*t outa me cuase i know somethings wrong but im not sure what it could be. Anyone have any same problem or could tell me what they think it is?
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 05:19 AM
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
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#1 tranny mount
#2 heat soaked starter.....
#3 a little info on your setup would be nice...
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 06:16 AM
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This is a long shot, but, this sounds familiar.
I don't know what setup you have, BUT it is possible that the gear sound you heard was the starter engaging while you were driving. This would seem to be consistent with the non start later, and then cooling down and restarting normally.

As you accelerate hard, the engine torques over. The starter solenoid wire (and other starter wires) move slightly (with the movement of the engine) and shorts to the big live wire (or connector) on the starter. This causes the starter to engage and the pinion is turned by the flywheel making that awful "gear" noise. This will overheat the starter causing a no start. The solenoid is obviously working because of the clicking.

Get under the car and check all the wires to the starter VERY carefully for rubbing, corossion, looseness etc.

As I say, this is a long shot, but I had to diagnose this a few days ago when my neighbours 4 banger was doing the same thing. His starter ran all the time the engine was running. The starter solenoid (command) wire was wrapped tight around the main lead from the battery and had rubbed through-thus causing a permanent live to the solenoid. All I did was move the wire away and tape it up. But this didn't start until he accelerated hard!

Really hope this helps

Andy.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 10:37 AM
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That "gear-sound" might also have been an alternator bearing or drive belt taking itself out to lunch. After a time the battery may have recovered enough to restart... maybe. More information would be a definite "plus" in this situation.
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 10:36 PM
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ok well its an 84 pontiac trans-am v8 5L 305 stock everything prity much and the details where i was on the free way at an almost compleate stop trying to get on cuase it was busy but eveyone was movin fast so i punch it to get up to speed and i hear a gear sound not prity for sure of course i ddint pay much attention to it at first we get to the mall about a 10 min drive and i go in to get pics with my date and friends and we find out there closed so we leave and decieded to pay for the much more expencive at homecoming pics get in my car everything dims and i get a clicking noise happened once before like 10 days ago so i figgure its the crappy pep boys wiring (didnt have time to do it myself) my freidns and i turn off all not needed electrical systems and try it and it still didnt work so i figgured it was the starter and we took one of there cars to the dance, get back the next day find a parking violation cuase i didnt move my car over night tehn i try to start it before i get to work on fixing it jsut for teh hell of it and it started right up like nothing happened and its still working the same way today jsut as good as it normally does (really good)
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Old Nov 18, 2002 | 11:31 PM
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mine did that a couple years back... intermittent starter problem... I had my starter replaced and it's been fine ever since.. although I had no gear grinding sound...
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