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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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i have the braided fuel lines and i cant seem to make them fit into the fittings anybody know how to do it
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 12:48 AM
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I don't remember but I think they just fit in and use a compression type of retention... I'll ask my dad he works on jets all day
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 01:10 AM
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ok thanks cuz it seems like i cant force it in and its starting to **** me off
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 02:04 AM
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what kind of fittings are you trying to use... what size is the hose and fittings? have any pics?
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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i used stainless compression fittings to adapt my aluminum line to the braided stainless. wasn't hard to find, i got aeroquip fittings from parts store that made my lines.
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 06:33 AM
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Well youll have to tell me what kind of fittings and hose you are trying to work with.

I'm an aircraft hydraulics mechanic and I build all kinds of hoses on a daily basis. Some fittings can be a real bitch. let me know what you have.
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 03:08 AM
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fuel line from summit trying to go into-6 an 90degree swivel head fixture or fitting.
everytime i try to force it in it frays more and more
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 05:15 AM
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Trim the end of the cable to get rid of the frayed bit. To cut it, wrap it tightly with tape and use a sharp fine hacksaw or a cut-off wheel. Peel the tape off and put a worm-type hose clamp on the end so that no more than about 1/16" is sticking out past the clamp. Tighten it down to compress the braid enough to get the fitting on once you've got it started, loosen off the clamp and slowly work the end on.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 08:02 AM
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Apeiron said it

usually though if its a clean cut you dont need to put anything over the braids to get the fitting on. Good idea on the hose clamp though, when I have problems with fraying I usually use a zip tie over the end (same principle).


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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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still doesnt work
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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AN compression fitting are always a bitch to get on....they fit really tight (thats why they do the job though)
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 12:28 AM
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what happens if i put grease
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 01:57 AM
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well ya really dont want that in the fuel line, but maybe a very small amount of a light grease would help.....however, it could make the fitting more likely to slip apart too
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 02:08 AM
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are you still having problems getting the sleeve over the hose braiding? tell us exactly what is giving you problems. It shouldnt be that hard unless you are doing something wrong or you have the wrong fittings.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:10 PM
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What size fitting should go on the stock fuel lines on the frame? -6 right? thanks
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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umm its not the size of the line that makes a difference its the size of the coupling fitting that adapts it to the hard line. i cant remember what size mine were
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 06:14 PM
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The stock fuel line should be 3/8" tube, so a -6 AN flare nut and sleeve works well.
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 06:27 PM
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Sorry for the confusion 383, if you were responding to me! I thought i had asked for the size of the fittings. Thanks Apeiron, thats the size i had come across somewhere else and that was the size i was going to order. Later-Bryan
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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yep -6 flare nuts....thats what i used, works great, it leaked alot at first because i f-ed up putting it on, but i fixed it hehe

always wondered why they dont just say #6 or something, whats the deal with stupid dash
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Old Dec 3, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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I was wondering that myself when i go to order them! I guess i'll just say, "size 6"!?!? Thanks guys-Bryan
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 12:53 AM
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umm i cant seem to get it to fit over the hose and the fitting is now all scratched so i cant return it. it seems liek the fiting is to small but it is all -6 an so i dont getit the hose is all frayed
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 11:00 AM
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...and everyone wonders why the factory used hose with a wire inner braid and rubber outer cover?? It's the same thing (or better) and doesn't hold all the dirt.

I s'pose it doesn't look cool, though... For heat resistance, there are thermal slip covers available, and they work better than bare, exposed braid.

Just my 2¢
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 11:17 AM
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If it's like most of those that I've had to deal with, he's having trouble getting the braid to go into the nut as he forces the hose over the barb of the fitting. A very comon difficulty.

Unfortunately there's no esy answer... a diamond-edge cut-off saw, and electrical tape on the braid before you cut it with the saw, are the only way I know to make a sure-fire connection. I've never had reliable succes with a hacksaw although sometimes I can get it to work after a couple of tries. If even one strand of the braid is bent or unraveled, it will never go together.

You might want to put a piece of tape over the end of the hose, take it back where you bought it, and have them cut ¼" or whatever off the end of the line with their cutoff saw, such that it's in the middle of your tape; and don't take the tape off until it's all the way together.
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Old Dec 4, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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summit is a far away place
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Old Dec 5, 2002 | 12:39 AM
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i gave it to my friends dad to figure it out he knows
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Old Dec 6, 2002 | 02:23 AM
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if its frayed and you are forcing it, you are only going to make it worse. Youll reach a point where you will just have to make a clean recut on the line.
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