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Borla vs Flowmaster vs DEQ

Old Jul 31, 2000 | 12:15 PM
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Borla vs Flowmaster vs DEQ

I've got a single stock muffler with 2 tail pipes on my '85 Z28. I've been looking through the Borla and Flowmaster catalogs... and it looks like Flowmaster is louder, but Borla has the HP advantage. I was wondering what is a great exhaust for my car (/w 305) to make it louder and get some HP out of it, yet staying within DEQ specs. I'm thinking dual exhaust, with a new cat.... but I don't know which is best. What have you guys out there done, and what do you suggest? Thanks.
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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 12:23 PM
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OH yeah, one more thing... What about Headers? True headers? Will that still pass DEQ? I'm in Washington State, and in all the cars I and people I know have gone through, they don't open the hood... so....?
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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 12:58 PM
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by true headers you are talking about full length headers
and if you are. I probley wouldn't recomend because i have full length headers in my 85Z and we had to raise the front an inch and we also put taller tire on the back and now i have airshocks
but with all that stuff. I will still hit my headers creeping over speed bumps or if im on a bad road those headers make a hell of a noise when they hit
i would probley go with block huggers if i wanted a handling street car so i could lower it just a little
and i dont know about the inspection crap cause im in the middle of nowhere oklahoma

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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 01:18 PM
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Borla and Flowmaster are both awsome, i think flowmaster is better for its price than borla is, borla is just $250 more becaus the systems made out of stainless steel. You can get a flowmaster catback for around $235 and add more mods w/ that extra money a borla woulda cost and come out ahead.

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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 02:56 PM
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Put the Hooker shorty headers on my brother-in-laws '82 Z28 and it was soooo easy. One went in from the top and 1 from the bottom. Then added 2.5" pipe, gutted cat and added Flowmaster exhaust........works perfect.Headers were only $135 in Summit.

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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 03:03 PM
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What do you mean by gutted cat? I know I can't really do anything to it except replace it, or I wont be legal in my state. Also is Dual Exhaust Flowmaster style best? and which series muffler produces best sound?
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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 03:13 PM
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If you intend to own the car for a long time and you're as **** about it as I am about mine, get the Borla. From everything i've read, they're a better exhaust than the Flowmaster, and from working in a steel plant I can tell you:
1. The quality of their metal work, especially their bending, is pretty damn good. The welding is okay, but it's pretty good for a company that probably doesnt focus on that.
2. It was worht it to me to have 304 stainless under there instead of a normal mild steel.

On the other hand, I never really cared what my car sounded like, just so long as when I got into the gas it got up and went. So I never bothered to compare the sound to that of a Flowmaster. If you want somethign that sounds BA and is a good value for the $, Flowmaster is probably a better pick.

You might also want to look into a Hooker system. I've heard from several sources that their aerochamber mufflers are just *loud* and make a V8 sound downright mean.

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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 03:31 PM
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I got a 90 Formula 350 and live in Seattle. I went to Walts Muffler in Shoreline for $150 installed they put on a Flowmaster 50 searies and has two pipes out the back. I already had the 3 inch exhaust with dual cats so did not see any reason to go with one of the more expensive setups. I have a set of SLP headers which are stainless steel and cost $350 on sale at this time, they are emmisions legal. Bought 2 new 2 1/2 in high flow cats from C & L performance for $150 a pair. SLP and C & L are both online. have fun. any Q's write back to Waformula350@hotmail.com

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Old Jul 31, 2000 | 03:34 PM
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sorry forgot my email waformula350@yahoo.com
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