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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Alright, just got done putting the headers on my car, now it wont start. Have spark, i dont think i have fuel. is there a safety switch for the fuel pump, or WTF could it be?

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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:45 PM
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Check the fuses. Do you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the key to the 'ON' position?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:48 PM
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Turn the key to Start but dont start it...is the pump priming? If you can hear it....get a fuel pressure gauge and check pressure at the Schrader valve. It's very easy to do. If you cant hear the fuel pump going, I believe you can turn the key forward as I mentioned before and lightly tap the gas tank with a rubber mallet and it might get the fuel pump to prime and start working again. If that's the case...it's on its way out. Replace it before it dies. And a pressure check is a good idea too to make sure it's operating decent enough so it's not leaning you out.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 09:51 PM
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alright, ill check the fuel pump. is there any vaccum lines that could be messed up by not having the smog crap on there?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:10 PM
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the pump primes, arent the guages like $50? i wont have $50 for a long time. im in debt about $150 for this project to my parents.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 10:15 PM
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Gauges are like $25 I think.... How's the EGR connection with the headers?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:17 PM
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i knew i forgot something i can just plug it right? no emissions stuff for me. what should i use to plug it if i can?
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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I think they sell EGR blockoff plates. Or you could use a thick piece of metal I suppose...maybe steel with the bolt holes drilled out? Something that'll seal real nice. Honestly though EGR isn't robbing you of any power...it disengages at WOT. And it helps emissions greatly. I'd just go the easier route and connect the system back up personally.. Unless you've got EVERYTHING all ripped out and stuff.... The car computer is meant to function with EGR as well so it'll probably throw codes for it.
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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i know it will throw a code, but it wont hurt driveability at all to my understanding. all the emissions stuff is gone. can i just plug the tube, i dont want tear the intake off to put on a block off plate
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Old Jul 20, 2003 | 11:57 PM
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It'd be better to plug the opening at the header, rather than at the tube. Will make for better exhaust flow I figure. Although my knowledge of EGR systems is limited, especially on these cars. Hell I dont even understand my Ford's EGR system...it's got an EGR valve and sensor, but no EGR connections from the headers at all. I just dont get it!!
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 10:57 AM
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TTT. if i plug this, should it be the problem im looking for? what hose? any pics?
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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so nobody has any help. do i have to pull the ****ing plenum off to trace this ****?
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 02:17 PM
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Where does the egr attach to your headers?!?!?! The only emissions stuff that attaches to my headers is my AIR and if you dont have emissions stuff then you probably dont have provisions for the AIR tubes on your headers. Unless im totally losing my mind my egr valve just connects to my intake and a stupid little hose that runs to it. And anyways your egr shouldnt effect your fuel pump in any way concerning starting your car ACTUALLY i dont believe your egr runs when you first start the car. I dont know what im talking about well enough to say this for sure but if you tripped some saftey device while doing the install try just unattaching your battery cables and then reattaching them. Often if you tripped something this will reset it. Just try that and see if everything goes back to normal.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Just make a block off... I did with some thin sheet aluminum, the thick EGR spacer on top (as a brace) and it works great.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Here's what I'm confused about though.... How can the EGR valve be an EXHAUST GAS RECIRCULATION valve without it having any access to the exhaust gas? I mean that is what it stands for right? I could've sworn my old Camaro had a pipe coming off the header that went to the digital EGR valve. But I could be wrong. And I also had a smog pump.
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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And also I agree with doug here in that I dont think the EGR operates during starting, or warming up...only in certain conditions. I also doubt that just a simple exhaust leak could prevent your car from starting. Sure it might make your car run like ***...possibly do damage to the valves if it was run for a certain length of time like this...but I'm sure it would at least start and TRY to run!
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:48 AM
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yeah, i learned the egr doesnt function when the motor is cold, or WOT. I was testing the injector to make sure theyre getting power, but the light was dim, so for the heck of it i plugged the wires back into the black box emissions thing, and the bulb got brighter. I didn't however try to start the car, I guess I should have. Could these wires be the problem?
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Old Jul 22, 2003 | 12:57 AM
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Nixon1, I was told that the EGR passage is in the head, so I guess its not the problem. New87 is coming over tomorrow to see if we can't get the car to start, but it won't be moving beacause I think I need a new differential cover. I changed it today, put in a new gasket, and it leaked Unless I could use a sealant, but I think I've heard youre not supposed to. How much is the differential cover going to set me back?

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