How much more can I expect.
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How much more can I expect.
I have a 350 carb with a edelbrock performer air gap intake and edelbrock performer 600 carb. I am getting ready to rebuild it with a 383 stroker kit with 9.5 comp and a comp cams Xe268 cam. What I want to know is how much more horsepower will I have. All guessestimates are fine. Just like to know
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ok the heads are the stock ones but the headers are hooker comp shorties. Umm comp cams magnum roller tip rockers 1.5 ratio. Ditributor is stock and so is everything else. and I think the compression is around 8.5:1
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Don't mind Slowmaro, he's just posting garbage to raise his post count. I wouldn't expect 400 horsepower from stock heads.
The stroker and cam should give you 30 horsepower, but you'd probably gain that by spending less by getting some better heads, and gain a lot more with all of it.
The stroker and cam should give you 30 horsepower, but you'd probably gain that by spending less by getting some better heads, and gain a lot more with all of it.
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get soem vortec heads off a junk yard truck, and have them ported and shaved, and those will surpass 400HP
are you retarded??? i never said use stock heads you moron, he said "how much should i expect if i use sportsman 2 heads"
400 hp.
now go put on your saftey helmet and play with the rest of the special kids. LEARN...TO ...READ
400 hp.
now go put on your saftey helmet and play with the rest of the special kids. LEARN...TO ...READ
my goal is around 370hp with as much torque as I can get. Then what if I added a set of world sportsman 2 heads.
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Id go with a set of Protopline ironlighting heads over the Sportman II's.
A lot more flow and a better chamber.
Either the 180 or 200cc port heads would do nicely.
I'd lean towards a 72cc chamber head for a street pump gas
383 with flat tops.
SportsmanII's are well made but dated. the flow is modest
without porting compared to the Iron lightnings.
the newer protopline heads are just better bang for the buck
out of the box.
www.protopline.com
If the $$budget$$ is an issue, spend the money on new heads
FIRST
before you spend money on strokin' it.
a 355 with great heads will blow the doors off a 383 with stock heads hand down. And for less.
A lot more flow and a better chamber.
Either the 180 or 200cc port heads would do nicely.
I'd lean towards a 72cc chamber head for a street pump gas
383 with flat tops.
SportsmanII's are well made but dated. the flow is modest
without porting compared to the Iron lightnings.
the newer protopline heads are just better bang for the buck
out of the box.
www.protopline.com
If the $$budget$$ is an issue, spend the money on new heads
FIRST
before you spend money on strokin' it.
a 355 with great heads will blow the doors off a 383 with stock heads hand down. And for less.
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Originally posted by supermaxxbasher
alrighty I found a set of those pro lightning heads for $735.and I decided to jump up to the Xe274 cam instead.
alrighty I found a set of those pro lightning heads for $735.and I decided to jump up to the Xe274 cam instead.
Around 420 to 440Gross HP tons 'o torque.....
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Sorry Slowmaro, I guess I was just tired. MCATs do that to you. Anyway, the majority of your posts are garbage. You're one reason post count should be invisible.
Funny you tell me to read. I'd like to direct you here: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=184134
Funny you tell me to read. I'd like to direct you here: https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=184134
as far as your manifold goes and heads at that, it depends on where you want your power range to be, ...upper lower or mid rpms.
just remember to kinda try to match everything up with each other, like dont get a high rpm manifold with heads that have narrow intakes made for low rpms.
im assuming you are going to get all the parts in one go right?
just remember to kinda try to match everything up with each other, like dont get a high rpm manifold with heads that have narrow intakes made for low rpms.
im assuming you are going to get all the parts in one go right?
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all in one go is what I am going to do. I am going to use the 200cc lightning heads with a comp cams Xe274 cam but what would be a good intake to match with these
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I need to rebuild my engine now" long story" I can get a 383 crank for $150 new but can I just switch it in when I go to rebuild it or do I need to get new pistons and rods. WIht that killing my budget I will prolly just get a set of those vortecs with a xe268 cam. But my main concern now is that I am going to have to tear into the engine and I can get a crank for a pretty good price I think I might as well put the crank in while the engine is apart.
im pretty sure you need connecting rods as well. im not an expert on 383's by far. i just know the basics on them. vortech heads are *** though, id love to have a set.
i know stroking the engine is more than just slappin in a different crank. i *think* it has to be bored .30 over as well. not sure though. you are also going to want to get new bearings. also cinsider getting the crank and pistons balanced. this isnt an eas nor cheap job. if you lack the money and experiance to do it right, i sugesta 350 short block and just build the top half of the engine.
i know stroking the engine is more than just slappin in a different crank. i *think* it has to be bored .30 over as well. not sure though. you are also going to want to get new bearings. also cinsider getting the crank and pistons balanced. this isnt an eas nor cheap job. if you lack the money and experiance to do it right, i sugesta 350 short block and just build the top half of the engine.
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I found something to. A unbored 350 block with a 400 crank is a 377 but if you bore it .030 it becomes a 383. My engine has 5.7" rods and most stroker kits include 5.7" rods. So techinally I should be able to put that crank in right? It would only be a 377 until I can afford to put some aftermarket forged pistons in and then I will have the block bored .030 and it will make it a 383 then Right? I know i would need it balanced.
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thatll work i suppose., but i thought when you stroked an engine, it got a bigger crank and the connecting rods had to be shorter...i dunno...im prolly wrong...but it seems as though either the piston or the rods would have to be shorter to compensate for the longer stroke.
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You need shorter pistons. Also, why would you tear apart the engine put a 400 crank in it (which needs to have the block clearenced) put it back together, wait 2 weeks to earn another $400 pull it all apart again, have it bored out, buy new pistons again, and put it all together again.
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The engine is in desperate need of a rebuild thats why I am going to tear it down in the first place.Lets see I am 17 I work for minimum wage I have enough to get the crank, rebuild kit,and have the block clearanced and my step dad can rebuild it for nothing at all. MY dad is best friends with the boss of a performance shop so if I need the block clearanced I can get it done cheap. As for getting new forged pistons It wouldn't be 2 weeks it would take alot longer that. With what I make .
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Ok, I understand your money problems, really i do. But in most cases a bored cylinder is almost a necessity. What happened to the engine that it needs a rebuild?
why do you need forged pistons? i mean..liek i said, im nto a 383 buff, but i doubt you need forged internals...i somehow dont see you making over 400 hp in the long run. like you said, you are 17, you cant really affoard to super charge it...only run forged if you plan on shooting nos, which you shouldnt in the first place ....no offense but i dont suggest a 17 year old thats been driving for 3 years tops to start shooting nos lol.
if money is the serious issue, just get a short block 350 and built the top end of the motor up, and you will be happy with 350 hp and will be 800 dollars less broke.
but if you really want the 383...you must have it all done at the same time, pistons, crank, clearance issues adressed, balanced, bored. its alot of work and money...i say 350 man....seriously...
if money is the serious issue, just get a short block 350 and built the top end of the motor up, and you will be happy with 350 hp and will be 800 dollars less broke.
but if you really want the 383...you must have it all done at the same time, pistons, crank, clearance issues adressed, balanced, bored. its alot of work and money...i say 350 man....seriously...
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Originally posted by supermaxxbasher
all in one go is what I am going to do. I am going to use the 200cc lightning heads with a comp cams Xe274 cam but what would be a good intake to match with these
all in one go is what I am going to do. I am going to use the 200cc lightning heads with a comp cams Xe274 cam but what would be a good intake to match with these
Originally posted by SlowMaro
http://www.sporttruck.com/howto/40619/index.html
everything you ned to know
just found this
http://www.sporttruck.com/howto/40619/index.html
everything you ned to know
just found this
...and....no one else was helpin the guy, figured i would ....didnt know i could only post a certain number of times in one topic.
the sad part is, you actually counted how many times i replied. lmao :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
the sad part is, you actually counted how many times i replied. lmao :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
Originally posted by SlowMaro
...and....no one else was helpin the guy, figured i would ....didnt know i could only post a certain number of times in one topic.
the sad part is, you actually counted how many times i replied. lmao :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
...and....no one else was helpin the guy, figured i would ....didnt know i could only post a certain number of times in one topic.
the sad part is, you actually counted how many times i replied. lmao :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:
Originally posted by SlowMaro
lol did you really just try to insult me due to my origin? thats funny. you are eing arrogant. please refrain from posting your stupidity.
lol did you really just try to insult me due to my origin? thats funny. you are eing arrogant. please refrain from posting your stupidity.
Gotta love someone who can't fix their own car trying to give advice, and who can't spell or use capital letters but calls other people stupid.
kevin, stfu. you are a problem on this board. all you do is insult other people and think you are better than everyone....either post helpful info, be nice, or take your aggression out on an inanimate object. dont bring it here. may you suffer from herpies, and have rectal problems. begone.
Originally posted by SlowMaro
kevin, stfu. you are a problem on this board. all you do is insult other people and think you are better than everyone....either post helpful info, be nice, or take your aggression out on an inanimate object. dont bring it here. may you suffer from herpies, and have rectal problems. begone.
kevin, stfu. you are a problem on this board. all you do is insult other people and think you are better than everyone....either post helpful info, be nice, or take your aggression out on an inanimate object. dont bring it here. may you suffer from herpies, and have rectal problems. begone.
The more garbage you post, and the more offended you get when someone calls you on it, the funnier it is...I've posted a whole lot more accurate, useful info here than you ever will. Have someone show you how to use the search button.
And it's spelled herpes, go re-read your prescription bottle.
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Slowmaro helped with the problem so just lay off him alright. Learn to be nice and give compliments they really help your self esteem.



