hey,, could someone tell me what i can tear out of my 92 l03 camaro concerning the emmisions smog egr and air stuff,,i want too dump anything that can be without getting a new chip, also anything having to do with air conditioning that can be torn out fairly easily,, pictures of what yer talkin about and anything to describe it all clearly would help greatly,, thanks

 

well first off, is this just a track car or is it a street car? daily driver? what are your reasons for wanting to do this? simply to clean up the engine bay or to make the car lighter/faster (as far as proformance you won't really notice any sort of gain by doing this)? if its a street car what type of inspection does it have to pass? just a sniffer or is their a visual as well? let us know n we'll take it from there!

 

street/strip/fun car, will be my daily driver over the summer but im not very affected by heat(this is what windows are for right?)so the ac can go. no inspections to pass, collectors plates rock like that.. all help is appreciated

 

air pump, ac, heater, blower motor, wiper motor all depends how far you want to go. most of the sensers and such are needed to run the engine, unless you go carb and non ecm controled hei

 

what im getting to, is what is emmisions crap in the car that can be taken out now that im e check free, and also what ac stuff can be taken out in the engine bay. i plan on taking out the condensor and the evap can and such but,, how far can i take those two tings and still have it as an ecm tbi equiped car, and unless you know someon who will burn me a new chip i need to be able to do it without messing with sensors. like,, i dunt know if i can take out the charcoal canister or not, and if so what do i do with the other fuel lines, and i dunt know if i can mess with some of the egr stuff without trippin the ecm out,, also,, does anyone know the location of the alcl connector on my car,, looked around the gas peddle and im not seeing it,,. does anyone know what the two 1 inch tubes over top of the pass. valve covers are for? can i dump those as well? tis is the prob see, i dunt know what half this **** is or what happens in the ecm when its gone,, this is why i asked about it.. any help is appreciated.

 

if you "dont know what half this **** is" then id just let it be for now. Familiarize yourself with the wiring and what sensors do what before you start hacking away. I did away with alot of stuff but not untill i was familiar with what every wire, sensor and hose did or where they went. The aldl connector is below and to the right of the steering wheel under the dash. Its a bit easier to see w/o the cover under there but its there.

 

not to be an a$$,, but familiarize me. or tell me where i can do it myself because the time is ripe right now to be doing stuff. and while i undestand things like, okay the egr recircualtes using routes in the intake and head, i dunno where the recirc gasses come from and what effect they have on the ecm once gone, or like, i know that the pump i pulled pushes air into my exhaust chocking my motor slightly more then it allready is,, but i dunno if the ecm will go nuts if i take the rest of the stuff related to it off. im hopin to not be taking too many wires at all, more aim is being placed on hoses and bs that is dead weight as far as im concerned. does anyone know if i CAN remove the charcoal canister? there isnt a performance replace for it (meaning that if they think they can make money of off performance brake lines vs stock ones they would have come out with a per. can if it was neccesar to have in the car.) so im guessing it can come out and i can still run fi. you see? its my winter project to take this stuff out while not driving the car while reducing the risk of trying to start it next year and having it run like crap because i didnt test it at each point, you get where im comin from? once again any help is appreciated

 

allright, went, pllued the cover, no sign of the stupid alcl,,getting aggravated... anyone got a clue here?

 

theres alot of stuff that can go, like the canister, the egr valve, a/c, smog pump and all its related hardware. Most of this stuff wont add up to much weight savings. Even removing the interior wont save much weight. Only around 150 lbs or so, including the spare. It (the engine related stuff) does, however, clean things up a bit and makes servicing the car much easier. The egr itself will give a code from time to time and it can cause detonation since the ecm adds timing when the egr is active. Buy a manual for your car and go under the hood and basically jsut look around and try to ID everything you see. Visually follow the wiring around. These cars are simple enough so taht it will quickly become aparent what does what. It would be rather cumbersome to tell you what every sensor is and what it does just though text alone. When you do encounter something your not sure of, ask specifically about it and what it does. This is the way i learned. After i got the car, i spent an hour or so poking around teh engine compartment to become comfortable with what is where. One thing to be aware of is the nylon hoses in the back of the engine compartment that feed vacuum to the HVAC systems. They crack real easy and theyre a pain to fix if the nbreak occures behind the firewall in the interior of the car.

 

ok... the aldl will actually be a small rectangular connecter near the front underside of teh dash on the drivers side with two rows of pins in it. Itll have a bundle of wires coming out the back.

 

that i saw,, but i thought that the alcl A)had a cover that said ALCL on it B) had letters on the different ports denoting them and C)i tought it was a single row of connectors?
we're spelling it different so im wondering if we're thinkin different things? im talkin about the assembly line communication link, bassicaly so i can decode the ses light thats popped up lately and also wire up the manual lockup convertor switch.

starting with the charcoal canister, the various lines going to to it would need something done with them, particularly the one from the tb, im real fuzzy on the true goals of a charcoal canister other then collecting fumes, so please bear with me and tell me what i can do about it past ripping it out lol..

'ppreciatte the help in this project.

 

yea that was the alcl, does everyones turn on before they start? because mine just flashed the code 12 over and over again so im thinkin its part of the startup, maybe im wrong,, you tell me.

 

code 12 is normal. 12 = 'no reference pulse from distributer' AKA engine not running. Can also indicate other things as well but its use is limited as an error code since its returned by default with the engine off.

 

allright,, pulled the next thing in line after the air pump,, which had two sensors on it a white and green one (green equals o2?) do i need to do anything with these? very pleased to see the pass. exhaust manifold for the first time . now,, two big tubes route back through the firewall directly above and behind the pass valve cover,, what are these, what are they doing and can i dump them? help is appreciated

 

what are they coming from? sounds like your heater hoses

 

yea they are the heater hoses, going to try to clean them up or something and align them to look nice,, possible relocation.
allright,, shouldnt be a problem with removing the air stuff from the manifolds and plugging them with intake plugs right? yea,,im going to end up keeping the EGR because it's going to save me a lil cash in the long run,, hopefully it wont get screwy when i change everything to go cooler.

the project continues..

yea anyone got a clue on the charcoal can?