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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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balancer slipped?

I went to go check my timing today to make sure it was still at 16*. When i put the timing light on it, the mark was way over under the water pump. So I dialed back the light but it still would not line up. I timed it a couple of weeks ago and the mark was right at 16*. Could the balancer have slipped, its only 4 months old.
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Old Oct 5, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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unlikely, but very possible.

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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 06:23 PM
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the car still runs the same, if the timing changed, wouldnt the car run any differently
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 06:57 PM
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It could, but you may not even notice it.

The balancer cannot slip side to side, only forward. There is a tooth on the crank about 1/8" tall that a groove in the balancer fits over. It will not move left/right on the crank.

I think your timing is probably off, just like the light shows.
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 11:20 PM
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not all balencers are one piece. he's referring to the outside of a two piece balancer slipping on it's insulator taking it out of index with the inner half.
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 11:32 PM
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I've seen it before! In fact, I have one within arm's reach that has slipped!

I order to prevent such issues from getting in my way, I have on my "Wish List" a fluidamper or similar one piece unit. 2 benefits, no slippag of the outer ring, and better dampening.
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Old Oct 6, 2003 | 11:38 PM
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Not trying to offend by stating the obvious, but are you sure you disconnected your EST wire?

You probably did. I think my balancer slipped as well. I set it at base timing to prevent some pinging I was getting at 15 BTDC, but the car ran like crap and was overheating. I couldn't figure it out. Turned out that it must have been retarded, even though I set it at "6" BTDC. I'm guessing the balancer isn't lined up right.

Good luck figuring it out, though.
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 07:32 PM
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yeah it slipped, the timing mark is almost 90* off from the keyway. so looks like ill be putting on a new balancer. thanks for the help.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 06:02 AM
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How does the fluidampr compare with a stock dampener? How much better does it dampen vibration?
I'm just trying to figure out if they're worth the $160+ price tag.
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