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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 03:02 PM
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Car won't turn over... starter? help!

Ok, it is more than time to get a new car!!!!

I was driving down the road, no problems, noises, etc. at all. The car stalled (pretty normal thing now) and I went to start it while coasting in neutral like I have done many times before. (The car is a standard)

It wouldn't start, so I pulled over to the side of the road and tried. All I heard was the (a) solenoid click... no starter activity. I thought.... dead battery. I turned on the headlights and told my girlfriend to watch them as I tried to start it. They dimmed, but did not dim that much. So, battery it is not.

We pushed the car and I popped it in 2nd, starting the car. I drove it home and tried to start it again, same deal. That's where the car sits... again.

My question is, why does a starter work fine and 10 minutes later stop working altogether? I'd just replace it if I wasn't affraid to loose another.

I just had my clutch done... could the starter have been screwed up then?
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Old Oct 7, 2003 | 10:48 PM
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Car: 1983 Trans Am
Engine: 305 LG4
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Do you have headers?
This happened to alot of people, the starter is way to close to the exhaust headers or manifolds and heats it up.
I would replace that starter with a mini-starter and add a heat shield. Im going to do this soon myself.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:15 AM
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I don't have headers.... but come to think of it, I do have a bad exhaust leak on the passenger side exhaust manifold to the y pipe... that must be it!
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:23 AM
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You don't necessarily have to have headers to get "solenoid heat soak." My car did it on a regular basis w/ the stock setup. Get the MADD solenoid by-pass kit, or just go buy a starter solenoid for a (ugh) Ford, and wire it up. I have a high-torque mini-starter, and was "assured" that it would not heat-soak. I wired up my old MADD kit, and problem solved.
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 09:54 AM
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Whats this about the solenoid bypass? Is that the part that fails due to the heat? I swear that is working fine!
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro
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if youre hearing the solenoid click then it should be fine....get a mini-starter and a heat shield like theyre saying and you should be good to go!
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:08 PM
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Sounds like a plan... but there are so many different ones! Brands, hp, etc... what one do you guys recommend?
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 01:56 PM
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Beware! I've been thru this crap before. Don't waste your time or money on a heat shield. They don't help! Just bypass the factory solenoid, and your problem will disappear!
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Old Oct 8, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Ok, how do I do that? I don't want to screw anything up!!!
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