Car won't turn over... starter? help!
10-07-2003, 03:02 PM
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Car: 83 bird
Engine: 305/383
Transmission: WC T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Car won't turn over... starter? help!
Ok, it is more than time to get a new car!!!!
I was driving down the road, no problems, noises, etc. at all. The car stalled (pretty normal thing now) and I went to start it while coasting in neutral like I have done many times before. (The car is a standard)
It wouldn't start, so I pulled over to the side of the road and tried. All I heard was the (a) solenoid click... no starter activity. I thought.... dead battery. I turned on the headlights and told my girlfriend to watch them as I tried to start it. They dimmed, but did not dim that much. So, battery it is not.
We pushed the car and I popped it in 2nd, starting the car. I drove it home and tried to start it again, same deal. That's where the car sits... again.
My question is, why does a starter work fine and 10 minutes later stop working altogether? I'd just replace it if I wasn't affraid to loose another.
I just had my clutch done... could the starter have been screwed up then?
I was driving down the road, no problems, noises, etc. at all. The car stalled (pretty normal thing now) and I went to start it while coasting in neutral like I have done many times before. (The car is a standard)
It wouldn't start, so I pulled over to the side of the road and tried. All I heard was the (a) solenoid click... no starter activity. I thought.... dead battery. I turned on the headlights and told my girlfriend to watch them as I tried to start it. They dimmed, but did not dim that much. So, battery it is not.
We pushed the car and I popped it in 2nd, starting the car. I drove it home and tried to start it again, same deal. That's where the car sits... again.
My question is, why does a starter work fine and 10 minutes later stop working altogether? I'd just replace it if I wasn't affraid to loose another.
I just had my clutch done... could the starter have been screwed up then?
10-07-2003, 10:48 PM
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Car: 1983 Trans Am
Engine: 305 LG4
Transmission: T5
Do you have headers?
This happened to alot of people, the starter is way to close to the exhaust headers or manifolds and heats it up.
I would replace that starter with a mini-starter and add a heat shield. Im going to do this soon myself.
This happened to alot of people, the starter is way to close to the exhaust headers or manifolds and heats it up.
I would replace that starter with a mini-starter and add a heat shield. Im going to do this soon myself.
10-08-2003, 09:15 AM
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Car: 83 bird
Engine: 305/383
Transmission: WC T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
I don't have headers.... but come to think of it, I do have a bad exhaust leak on the passenger side exhaust manifold to the y pipe... that must be it!
10-08-2003, 09:23 AM
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Car: 1985 IROC Z-28
Engine: 355
Transmission: TH-350
Axle/Gears: 3:73
You don't necessarily have to have headers to get "solenoid heat soak." My car did it on a regular basis w/ the stock setup. Get the MADD solenoid by-pass kit, or just go buy a starter solenoid for a (ugh) Ford, and wire it up. I have a high-torque mini-starter, and was "assured" that it would not heat-soak. 
I wired up my old MADD kit, and problem solved.
I wired up my old MADD kit, and problem solved.
10-08-2003, 09:54 AM
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Car: 83 bird
Engine: 305/383
Transmission: WC T5
Axle/Gears: 3:42
Whats this about the solenoid bypass? Is that the part that fails due to the heat? I swear that is working fine!
10-08-2003, 01:05 PM
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Car: 1990 Camaro
Engine: 355ci
Transmission: TKO-600 5 speed
Axle/Gears: 3.73 10 bolt
if youre hearing the solenoid click then it should be fine....get a mini-starter and a heat shield like theyre saying and you should be good to go!
10-08-2003, 01:08 PM
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Car: 83 bird
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Sounds like a plan... but there are so many different ones! Brands, hp, etc... what one do you guys recommend?
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10-08-2003, 01:56 PM
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Car: 1985 IROC Z-28
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Beware! I've been thru this crap before. Don't waste your time or money on a heat shield. They don't help! Just bypass the factory solenoid, and your problem will disappear!
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