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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:53 AM
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Intake Question...

Does anyone here know anything about the Edelbrock SP2 intake?

I know were there is one that may be for sale, but other than that it is an Edelbrock, its aluminum, and will hold a Qjet, I know nothing about these manifolds. I don't think Edelbrock makes it anymore, as I was told that it was made in the '70s, and I cannot find a new one for sale anywere, and I cannot find any on Ebay either (to look at).

Any input welcome here.

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:09 AM
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Car: 1988 Firebird S/E
Engine: 406Ci Vortec SBC
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Axle/Gears: 7.5" Auburn 4.10 Posi-Traction
Sort of a modified dual plane with very small runners.

Makes low/ mid torque with a small cam but not horsepower.

There is a pic of one on this page

http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild/1029/

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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 03:03 AM
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SP2P, nice "street" manifold, not for a highly modded engine.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:02 AM
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I have one in the garage, do you want measurements of ports, etc? Or are you looking for one?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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It's actually "SP2P". It's an old one, the name stands for "single plane/dual plane". Long time out of production. I think it was discontinued in about 82 or so.

Sort of the forerunner of the Performer RPM. It ran OK back in its day but is long since supplanted by a number of things that work a whole lot better (including the RPM). I certainly wouldn't put one on anything I was building.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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I had one about 25 years ago & it was an improvement over the factory manifolds of that time, but there are much better ones available now.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:21 PM
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Ok, thanks alot guys.

What about the Edelbrock Torker? (not the Torker II, the original Torker)

My dad had one on his '73 Z/28 back in the day, says it really kicked some ***. I've seen a bunch on Ebay for fairly cheap and in good shape. Looks hairy too, lol.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:13 PM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
Ok, thanks alot guys.

What about the Edelbrock Torker? (not the Torker II, the original Torker)

My dad had one on his '73 Z/28 back in the day, says it really kicked some ***. I've seen a bunch on Ebay for fairly cheap and in good shape. Looks hairy too, lol.
Same story as the SP2P, out-dated.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:31 PM
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The VicJr makes more power at all rpms than a old torker.
Even at low rpm
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:48 PM
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Edelbrock still makes that Torker manifold... they claim a 2500-6000 rpm range, which is about right for what I am building.

So is the Torker just a little better than stock, like the SP2?
Is it better than the SP2?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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Don't waste your time with this old stuff.

get a performer RPM or a Professional Products
Crosswind dual plane.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:06 PM
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Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
I would love to get an intake like one of those, but they are just too expensive right now. Maybe in the future, but not now.

Right now, I can get a Torker manifold in spectacular condition for $45, and thats about as much as I can spend on one right now.

And from what I've heard from people who have owned them, they seem to like this manifold alot. My dad, who had one on his '73, had a few different ones on that car and the Torker was the one he liked by far the most.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Normally, I would get one of the manifolds you guys are suggesting, like the RPM or the Crosswind, Its just that right now, i'm on a very limitted budget because of the crappy high-school-kid kinda income, lol.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Originally posted by Air_Adam
Normally, I would get one of the manifolds you guys are suggesting, like the RPM or the Crosswind, Its just that right now, i'm on a very limitted budget because of the crappy high-school-kid kinda income, lol.
Well the new manifold won't make ya get through a snow drift any better so you have all winter to save up and locate a decent manifold.
By the time you pay for shipping etc to import a
used torker from somewhere in the U.S.
you could find a good dual plane highrise locally.

I had these old single planes on cars back in the 70's too.

All I can say is this is the new century , I'd hold out for a modern intake.
it will be worth it......in the spring...

Check the local Sask. area Buy& Sell , I-Sell or Auto Trader. There is lots of good used stuff around for sale.
Especially this time of year.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 06:47 AM
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If you don't have the money to spend on a good one, don't waste what money you do have on a crappy one. Save it up until you can afford one that's an actual improvement over what you've got. Buying somebody's old junk just because it's cheap even when you don't particaulrly "need" it, you just "want" it, is a short quick road to disappointment.

There's a reason why one of those old manifolds in "spectacular condition" is less than 1/3 the price of a new one..... and it isn't because people who know what they're looking at when they see it are falling all over themselves trying to buy it.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by RB83L69
There's a reason why one of those old manifolds in "spectacular condition" is less than 1/3 the price of a new one.
Not saying you are wrong here, but the Torker I have been looking at actually isn't one of the old ones from the '70s, but one that is only about a year old.

I've asked around a bit about it and, from what I've been told about it, the new "Original Torker" has a little different and better internal design than the '70s version, but it's called that because the outside is identical, as well as the basic design.

I don't know what's actually different about it from the '70s one, but I do know that its not the one actually made in the 1970's like some of you guys might be thinking.

But, like I said before, I don't know what (if any) changes Edelbrock made to it, but it must be better than the original, no?
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 04:23 PM
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From Edelbrock's web site:
this Torker is identical to the original and has a boss for the oil filler tube
Sounds like the same old thing to me. New casting maybe, but the same mold.

It will make a 305 absolutely a pig around town.

Notice that it still doesn't have the boss for the A/C brace; it has no power brake fitting (after all, not a whole lot of hot rods had power brakes when it came out); and possibly other fittings and stuff missing that will make it very difficult to install in a sanitary fashion without butchery or just leaving stuff hanging.

I sure wouldn't go that way. But, that's just me. I'd save my money and buy a more suitable intake for the purpose at hand in a few months, rather than shooting my wad now and getting something that I'd regret later.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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Ok, sounds fair enough.

Just that I could get either of these intakes for fairly cheap because there is one of each for sale in town here, but I guess I'll hang onto what i've got for now.
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 06:48 PM
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i know this belongs in the classifieds but this young man needs help i have an edelbrock rpm intake that is 9 mo.old and to keep you from wasting money on that other intake i will sell it to you for 60.00 shipped to you,i can respect the fact of your age and determination when i was your age i had all kinds of help from the older crowd......
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Old Dec 1, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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After converting currency, paying taxes and entry prep fees by the time he receives it it's still going to cost him $100, which is what they usually go for locally.

Like F-Bird says, just keep watching the papers.
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