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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 01:22 AM
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How much is too musch CR??

I'm looking into buying an engine kit and it comes with 10.3:1 pistons. My question is can I run this compression on pump gas? or what is a good ratio to shoot for?
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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 08:20 AM
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that is getting near the upper limit most people consider for pump gas and iron heads. each engine is differant and has differant needs but you shouldn't have any problems with that set up.

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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 09:18 AM
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That is about as high as I wouold go even with aluminum heads. Some go higher. Like Ede said, each engine is slightly different too.

Timing (base, rate of advance, etc) has a big influence on detonation too...

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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 09:34 AM
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If you go with that kit get the Fel-pro teflon head gaskets or a premium quality heat gasket thats a little "fat". Agree, 10:1 is about the limit for the street but small blocks heve a lot of leeway depending on the rest of the set-up. Get the best ignition you can afford. This will pretty much assure an occasional fill up of bad gas won't hurt much.

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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 10:42 AM
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Where you live also plays a part in the compression limit. A car that pings with the best pump gas at sea level will run fine at a higher elevation like Denver.


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Old Feb 11, 2001 | 11:33 AM
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The compression ratio you can run without problems also ties in to your camshafts duration figures. The longer the cams duration numbers, the higher static compression you want to run. That's because the valve opening and closing events create a "dynamic compression" ratio which is somewhat lower than the static compression normally calculated by the standard formulas. Essentially, if the intake valve is still open when the piston begins it's upward compression stroke, you really don't get all of the full compression on the gas mixture. Dynamic compression ratio is typically calculated from the intake closing point on an engine, and this point depends on the camshaft's duration.

If your camshaft has high duration numbers, you can run higher static compression. If your camshaft has low duration numbers, you need to stick with lower static compression.


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