Replace pistons? Worth it or a Waste?
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From: Blaine, MN
Car: 1987 Iroc Z28
Engine: 305
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt, 3.23 Posi
Replace pistons? Worth it or a Waste?
Need a judgment call...
I've got the 305 apart in the garage (been that way for like a year) and I'm looking to put it back together soon. If it matters, it's out of an '87 Iroc carb.
The question is, will I see any noticable gains from replacing the pistons with some aftermarket slugs. The originals are in pretty good shape. They have 4 valve reliefs and the tops are just slightly dished (not a true flat-top) but I believe that the CR was around 9:1 or even 9.5:1. I've had the heads surfaced witch might raise the CR a little bit and I'm thinking of having the block decked as well.
This question is of course useless if I decide to punch out the holes 0.030 over.
Also, what CR are you guy's running in your 305's? and what did you do to achieve this. I'm shooting for 10:1 to try to build a bit more power.
I've got the 305 apart in the garage (been that way for like a year) and I'm looking to put it back together soon. If it matters, it's out of an '87 Iroc carb.
The question is, will I see any noticable gains from replacing the pistons with some aftermarket slugs. The originals are in pretty good shape. They have 4 valve reliefs and the tops are just slightly dished (not a true flat-top) but I believe that the CR was around 9:1 or even 9.5:1. I've had the heads surfaced witch might raise the CR a little bit and I'm thinking of having the block decked as well.
This question is of course useless if I decide to punch out the holes 0.030 over.
Also, what CR are you guy's running in your 305's? and what did you do to achieve this. I'm shooting for 10:1 to try to build a bit more power.
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Car: '85 IROC
Engine: LB9
Transmission: 700 R4
An overbore, flattop pistons, block decking and head milling might raise your CR 1 point.
Tightening up the quench clearance makes a difference too.
If you do some other mods while you're in there, you'll find a noticable gain.
http://kb-silvolite.com/calc.php?action=comp
You can figure it out more closely with this calculator.
Tightening up the quench clearance makes a difference too.
If you do some other mods while you're in there, you'll find a noticable gain.
http://kb-silvolite.com/calc.php?action=comp
You can figure it out more closely with this calculator.
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Car: 1984 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Engine: H.O. 305 5.0L;L69
Transmission: T-5; Axle Ratio 3.73
yeah..and those are good pistons to go with if you are thinking about it. Those Keith Black series
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Car: 86 Corvette, 89 IROC, 1999 TA
Engine: 350, 350, LS1
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i'd have to agree with ede.. and I wouldn't bore the block oversize unless it actually needed it. A lot of people do it for some unknown reason, but it makes about as much sense as pissing in the wind..
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Car: 82 Berlinetta/57 Bel Air
Engine: L92/LQ4 (both w/4" stroke)
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I'm not understanding the part about spending money on a 305 shortblock. I've done the math many times, it never comes up favoring the 305 vs. getting a 350 builder.
It's not like I'm a 305 hater, either. Or against making one make more power. I drive one to work every day. But, the economics of $'s/HP just don't work out once you start spending money on the 305 shortblock.
It's not like I'm a 305 hater, either. Or against making one make more power. I drive one to work every day. But, the economics of $'s/HP just don't work out once you start spending money on the 305 shortblock.
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I'm not trying to be disagreeable. But as far as getting new pistons for a std bore block, it's not as if it can't be done. It's more a question of how much of a perfectionist you want to be, how worn out the original bore is, and how much $$ you really want to invest in your 305.
It might not make a lot of sense to some guys to do it, but then to some guys it doesn't make sense to rebuild a 305 at all.
Personally if I were building a 305, I'd do it as inexpensively as possible, and put any real money into parts that could be swapped to a 350 at a later time.
Considering that your engine is torn down already, and you're going to be investing in parts to reassemble it, a set of cast flattops might not add more than $120 to your total incl labor to press the pins in.
My main reason for telling you this is cause IMO the factory dished pistons are a "power disabling" piece of equipment, and to me it makes less sense to put together an engine with those things in there than to replace them with a set of std bore flattops.
I have done it, successfully
No flame intended... Just my opinion
It might not make a lot of sense to some guys to do it, but then to some guys it doesn't make sense to rebuild a 305 at all.
Personally if I were building a 305, I'd do it as inexpensively as possible, and put any real money into parts that could be swapped to a 350 at a later time.
Considering that your engine is torn down already, and you're going to be investing in parts to reassemble it, a set of cast flattops might not add more than $120 to your total incl labor to press the pins in.
My main reason for telling you this is cause IMO the factory dished pistons are a "power disabling" piece of equipment, and to me it makes less sense to put together an engine with those things in there than to replace them with a set of std bore flattops.
I have done it, successfully
No flame intended... Just my opinion
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