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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:14 AM
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how hard, or whats the trick

im gonna be pulling my oil pan tomarrow to see how bad the internals blew up, whats the trick to getting the pan off while motor is in the car

looked underneath it today and it looks very tigth with the cross member and the y-pipe

is there a trick to getting it out?
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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:16 AM
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Car: '92 RS, '84 Z28
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If the internals are screwed, why waste time lookin, when then engine needs to be pulled anyhow?

Just tryin to save some work, pulling the pan can be done, but even on a lifted truck, it really sucks
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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:18 AM
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it still runs, so im hopping it was something minor, that can be fixed, mainly my dad is making me do it

im gonna do a 350 swap if any major work has to be done
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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:32 AM
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Do you know exactly what is wrong, chew a bearing, rod related? If its the bearing, the crank is gonna need re ground, and that means its gonna have to be out of the car. If it were me id just pull it and find out whats wrong and either fix it or drop a 350 in it
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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:40 AM
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To answer the ??... Take the dist cap off, position a jack under the harmonic balancer or better, get a hoist and hook to the engine. Support the engine's weight and remove the through bolts in the engine mounts, raise the engine (a lot). Shimmy your butt back under the car and start removing bolts/nuts and drop the pan.
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Old May 22, 2004 | 06:30 AM
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i'll add just a bit to what morley said. you need to rotate the crank as you pull the pan off so you can index the counterweights up and out of the way of the pan as it comes off.
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Old May 22, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Usually when theres noise in the bottem end theres no point in just peeking in. I'd just pull the engine and then take a look, I bet it would take less time to pull the engine then pull the pan then just to wiggle the pan off then try to wiggle it back in keeping the new gaskets intact.
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Old May 22, 2004 | 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by SSC
I bet it would take less time to pull the engine then pull the pan then just to wiggle the pan off then try to wiggle it back in keeping the new gaskets intact.
Naaa, took me 4 hours to remove a pan, change the oil pump and reinstall the pan. no way you are yanking that engine and putting it back in in that amount of time.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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No way you are yanking that engine and putting it back in in that amount of time.
True, but like he said, if it comes out, it isn't likely going back in anyway.
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Old May 23, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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ok, i feel like an idiot

i had my grandfather come over who is a mechanic and he listened to it, and flat out said i was jumping way to fast at the fact that it was a blown rod

after he pointed out that it was an extremely tinny noise (which i relized after he said it) we started looking for what it could be

pulled the bellhousing dust shield off and it was bent into the end of the crank, so every time one of the lobes on the crank end hit it it thunked

took it out and startedthe car, and no thunking

i straightened it out, then put it back in and guess what, the noise was gone

so nothing needs to be pulled out now, but im still gonna start building a 350 for it, ive got the perfect motor to start with as a gift from my grandpa for my birthday/graduation gift
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