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Ede you were wrong.....I hit water!!!!

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Old Mar 23, 2001 | 09:09 AM
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Ede you were wrong.....I hit water!!!!

Well I wasn't even half way done with the grinding I had to do today and I hit a water passage on the bottom of one of my cylinders!!! The hole is very small. Is there any way that this can be welded shut and hold? Or is it just a waste of time to try? I guess there's not a chance it's an oil passage and not coolant??

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Old Mar 23, 2001 | 10:39 AM
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There are techniques for welding cast iron; I'm the wrong person to ask about that though. I know next to nothing about welding. Actually, ede is probably a better esource on this than me.

Go ahead and finish all your grinding. If the block has enough core shift that you went through in one place, you may hit water in others too. Then get all of it welded after you're done.

Check with people who work on marine engines; people let their boat motors freeze all the time, so those guys get lots of practice fixing castings.

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Old Mar 23, 2001 | 12:26 PM
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Yeah a marine shop might be a good idea, but I'm a little leery about the welding cast iron process. First of all you have to heat the block to 700-900 degrees.....won't that distort all of my machine work?? Then who's to say through all the heat cycles it will hold the weld and not pop a leak in a few months??
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Old Mar 23, 2001 | 03:01 PM
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YOu might be able to Tig weld it without heating the block too much by using a silicon-bronze rod. It is not as struturally stable as cast iron rod but it will certainly hold the water pressure.

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Old Mar 23, 2001 | 03:17 PM
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Old Mar 25, 2001 | 08:26 PM
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sorry to hear about your block. hard to believe but it's not the first time i've been wrong. did you have the blocked UT checked for core shift before you started? it happens but most people don't poke holes in the water jackets when they clearance the block. for welding it you can send it out to professional shop the does casting repairs or find some one locally to fix it. without seeing your block if i were doing it i'd use nickel tig, silicone bronze tig, or steel mig to fix it with. i'd have it PT inspected too before i used the repaired block. after the repair i think i'd put some block filler in to strengthen it and seal it. i'd replied sooneer to you but was away all week end.

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Old Mar 26, 2001 | 03:41 PM
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Sometimes you can drill and tap for a plug.

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